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    Lightbulb How to pick up an older woman

    Hi everybody.

    This is my first post and I hope it will be helpfull for all of you.

    Because of my age, I had trouble with pick up older woman and one time I get bored with all chicks in my age, so I tried to open one MILF at the bar in the club (she was 38 btw) and almost accidently I involved routinte which I call NO CHOICE routine. It's field tested and it works very well.

    1) So, first you have to open the woman whith any opener you want.
    2) Have a conversation with her for few minutes, use oppinion openers, some girl crack or whatever, the important thing is - you can't be the only one talking all the time, you have to exchange some experiences and oppinions with her, so for example, social value story is not good here.
    3) When you feel that you are in comfort, tell her, because she is so honest with you, that you have to ask her one question.
    4) Then, tell her a story. Tell her, that you are bored of all of that young stupid bimbos and that some time ago, you've met some woman who appearently was way older than you. Tell her that you had great time together, you've understand each other and finally you've started to think, that you can have something more with her.
    But then she asked you how old are you and when you told her, she rejected you immidietly, although you understand each other, smile at each other and ....bla ..bla.....
    5) And here finally comes the question. Would you do the same? Would you rejected someone which understand you and whith who you feel great just because few years? (By telling this, you have to lay your hand on you chest, to point out, that you are talking about yourself, it's kind of ballsy, but you have to do it).
    6) Every woman will tell you, that of course not. And she have to, because if she told you that she would reject you too, she would be hippocryte and the same bastard like the previous one. So this is why I call this NO CHOISE routine, because exactly, you don't give her any choice.
    7) Talk with her about this topic for a while and where there is silence, look in to her eyes for three seconds, if she won't look away (and she f***ing won't!), kiss her.
    8) Then it's up to you. I recommand to thank for wonderfull time with her and say that you hope it will continue some time. She will give you her number. Than wait for her call, meet her and if you're won't do anythink stupid, you will sleep with you.

    In the end I have one more advice. In this routine is acting very, very important,(and I believe it's allways important, but here it's the base of the routine) especcialy when you are telling a story. Woman can sence if you are telling lyingbullsh1t to her, so try to emphatize, try to put yourself into the story in you mind and express all your emotions to her.
    It may sounds tricky, but I believe, that you all can do it.

    Well guys, that's it. Again I am saing it's my first article, so I welcome every constructive critics and of course answer every question.

    Hope it will help you.

    Pariah

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    Default Re: How to pick up an older woman

    This seems very mechanical, but it also seems like something that would work. I don't like the part with opinion openers. The main goal you need to keep in mind when picking up older women is to show a sign of higher maturity and intelligence. Relish them with facts and interesting information that they wouldn't normally hear about, and flirt with them in a style that would rival Don Quixote and Casanova.

    Parts 4-5 is similar to what I know as the Clean Slate Theory. The theory is by David X, and it talks about how you, nor anyone else, should judge another by the actions of somebody else. Just because one of your partners cheated on you does not mean that all of them are going to cheat on you.

    The difference here is that I see it is geared up sort of like a trick question. This difference, I believe, more so incorporates guilt than anything else. What is probably going through her head as you are asking her the question in five is "Aww, I don't want to be like everyone else and reject him because I would feel bad. Then again, I would feel weird saying yes as well because he's so young". You really aren't giving her a choice in that. Clever and good, but bad at the same time.

    As for the bs bit, any woman and socially intelligent man can tell that. Nothing is worse than a person who is being fake and in-genuine with you. No one wants to be lied to or fed artificial jargon, and that is why one of the most important points you learn in pickup is to just be yourself. Don't try to put on a mask and sell yourself off in an effort to win someone over or pass them off. Sincerity will always win in the short run AND the long run.

    Overall, this is some interesting stuff. Seems a little bit like copy and paste from the beginner stuff people will learn, but it sounds like it should work.
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    Default Re: How to pick up an older woman

    Well, I was thinking about, what you wrote. And generaly, I agree with you. To be yourself is really importand and I was.
    Because how I said, I involved this accidently. Till now, I haven't heard about Cleant State Theory (but thank you for that information) and the story really happened to me.
    When I opened my first older woman, I was quite nervous, I was talking with her some time and this is what happened. Later, I analyzed what I did and because it worked I did it again and I had another succes.
    So I just thought that this could work for another ones as well, so I wrote it, cause I know how difficult it is for young ones to aproach real woman.

    Anyway thank you for what you wrote. You are wise man.

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    Default Re: How to pick up an older woman

    Older women are my bread and farkin butter. Im always natural with them as I don't use routines. But basically the ones that have worked have been fairly indirect. I don't feel like they are allowed to just say yes. So I open indirect and use eye contact and tonality to rope them in. When the attraction is there you can even flip direct say I really thought you were just gorgeous. But the idea is that you want to give them a little time to decide. Its really challenging for me because im 19 but Im the craziest one they've ever met.
    What you need will not come quickly. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS WHAT YOU FEAR. Take comfort that what you seek is there. But you will NEVER have it if you keep being a p$ssy.

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    Default Re: How to pick up an older woman

    Yea, I have one huge advantage in my arsenal of qualities, and that is my ability to change my age and maturity at will. I am twenty years old and a sophomore in college. I also have a beard and a tattoo, all combining together to make me appear way older than I am. If I want to appear younger, I just say that I am a sophomore in college, while to appear older I say that I only have two years left (junior standing).

    The key is all about perception. More mature targets will hold a preconceived dominance over you. They will believe that just because they are older than you in some sort of way, you are only a fledgling. You have it tougher, because it seems like you have to go into a qualifying fit in order to get her. Of course we all know that this doesn't work though.

    If you want to eliminate the need to try and constantly qualify to them, there are two things that I find useful. The first is simply treating them as if they were the same as me. They can be way older than me for all I care. The only thing that matters is that we are opposite sexes, thus I am interested.

    The second thing is making her qualify herself to me. Anything that puts me up in a higher position and brings her lower is my best friend. Ask her geared questions that are designed to make her try and prove that she is as high of a worth as she thinks she is. Best question for that is this: "Name the three traits that describe you the best".
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    Default Re: How to pick up an older woman

    I wouldn't use a routine. If you think young women can smell incongruence, older women have had much more time to develop their bullsh1t radar. If she jumps on a routine like that, she's a cougar on the prowl and probably would have jumped on anything if you look young enough to give a healthy fark.

    But if you've legitimately had the experience you describe, then that "routine" is not so much an issue. Still, I'd be concerned that now you're framing the whole conversation around age. You might have gone up to this older woman, and she was just seeing you as another person, until you throw that insecurity at her. Now she IS thinking about how young you are. Or even how young you look... if some other woman turned you down for how young you look, how is she going to look to everyone now that she herself is robbing the cradle? social proof working against you instead of for you.

    Maybe I'm versatile like Swagman, but older or younger, I rarely talk about age. It's one of those boring one-word-answer types of questions. If they do, I call them out on that, or on being superficial. If they're obsessed with some irrelevant number such as age (to me it seems no different than the japanese obsession of knowing your blood type), I can turn that into a game "you seem to know a lot about this, can you guess mine?" Or, if you don't want to give a straight answer to judge you by, make it "how old do I look?" instead of "how old do you think I actually am?" This leads into an important question to find out about the woman, directly or indirectly: if they have an issue with age, are they judging it by looks, how you act, or what the actual number is? Swagman is right that some older women are looking for maturity. However, some are concerned more by how others will perceive you. Many do not care, unless YOU bring it up, or unless you are incongruent in some way and they start looking for age as an excuse to put a finger on why they feel weird about you (much the same way "creepy" isn't a tangible thing, it's a LABEL girls put on a guy who is incongruent in some way they can't consciously define).


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