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    Default At a stand still

    Dear Forum Members,
    I have vastly improved my game throughout this summer. My inner game and confidence is much higher when talking and approaching women. I still have some Approach Anxiety of course but I most of the time I don't listen to it. I have become much better at being a flirt and not just talking about random subjects that would friendzone me. But the issue is i feel that i have hit a plateau. I was wondering what can I do to keep improving my game. I haven't tried day gaming yet and to be honest i'm pretty nervous about it? Please help I want to keep improving my inner game and my outer game. Thank you!

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    Default Re: At a stand still

    To be honest I think day game is better. It's more casual, less stress, and HB's aren't usually expecting it. If you go out to a club or a bar, the HB's are almost expecting to talk to guys. But if you approach them in the grocery store, it seems more natural and their guard is down.

    My trick is to focus on the details. Where we are, why are we here, what is she looking for, things like that. If she looks lost or confused, or can't find something, play off that and sympathize with her, act like you're lost or confused or can't find anything either.

    You should be able to find plenty of day game openers on here. I've tried some basic ones, like just asking for her opinion on an item in the store and I was able to n-close.

    Hope this has helped in some way!

    -EightBall

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    Default Re: At a stand still

    I agree that day game is better, but less stress... I'm still shitting my pants about it haha
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    Also one of my sticking points is having trouble creating initial attraction when first approaching a girl

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    I feel the same. I can talk to girls but I find it hard to TALK to girls I like and especially with HB's where I clam up. I've read posts on this forum and others, looked at people I know who are successful with woman, and with my own gut instincts, I have come to the conclusion that there is no quick fix or anything you learn. You have either got it or you haven't. What do you do if you haven't go it? This is the 64,000 dollar question. I haven't got it but I'm willing to try another approach. Rather than having a goal of trying to pickup a woman, I am aiming lower and just trying to chat to as much woman as possible so that I can feel as comfortable as possible in the hope that helps my game. I've being doing this and feel a lot more confident with woman and I kinda do feel that this confidence is being picked up with woman which makes me more approachable to them. I also do feel confident when trying to make openers with woman. I think if I can maintain this confident, relaxed attitude then it's going to make it easier to move up a level, so to speak, to actually make the move to successfully pick up a woman. Whether this approach actually works is another thing but if you don't try...

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    Default Re: At a stand still

    It's okay to be nervous about day game. It's okay to be nervous about doing anything out of your comfort zone.

    It's not okay to let this nervousness get to your head.

    You need to figure out how to use the anxiety to push yourself towards your fears, not away from them.

    This is your inner game Mindset. You love challenging your fears because they make you feel alive.
    It's not about who I was or who I'm going to become.

    It's about who I am. Do it right here, right now.

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    One of the essentials for an efficient performance of any physical activity is a good warm-up. The same can be applied to picking-up woman. Talk to as many woman as you can. If you see a woman coming towards you in the street, smile at her. When you go into a shop and encounter a female shop assistant, always try to attempt a conversation with her, even a few words, be friendly and try to get a smile out of her. What you get out of this is that you feel comfortable and confident amongst woman. It is a hard and a bit uncomfortable at first to do this with woman you don't know, I know I've been there and at times still are, but eventually it isn't as daunting and gets easier over time until it starts to become natural. Once you get there, you can then move out of the comfort zone and attempt to pick-up woman.

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    Default Re: At a stand still

    quite honestly I don't know why your so nervous about day game,imo day game is actually easier to get into comfort and its a lot easier to get an insta-date or at least a non-flakey n-close.

    if you want to take your game to the next level, try going out during the day and using only situational openers (as in literally walk over to her and come up with something to say as you approach) you can open with anything and then transition into conversation. going with situational openers and natural conversation about whatever is on your/her mind will take you to the next level. having natural conversation with no canned material at all is the last step to becoming an expert. being 100% natural and genuine is harder than it sounds.
    good luck!

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    Default Re: At a stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by mike.wow89 View Post
    Dear Forum Members,
    I have vastly improved my game throughout this summer. My inner game and confidence is much higher when talking and approaching women. I still have some Approach Anxiety of course but I most of the time I don't listen to it. I have become much better at being a flirt and not just talking about random subjects that would friendzone me. But the issue is i feel that i have hit a plateau. I was wondering what can I do to keep improving my game. I haven't tried day gaming yet and to be honest i'm pretty nervous about it? Please help I want to keep improving my inner game and my outer game. Thank you!

    Oh brother here we go, don't you love plateaus? I fricking hate plateaus man like the epitome of everything challenging in life. Oh well it's all well and good when you realize plateaus are the things that cause you to rethink, try harder, and do better to improve yourself. Just like I am at a plateau at the Gym right now but working harder to break it. Just like you are at a plateau right now with these girls well it's all in your perception. I WAS in a plateau with these girls but I realized it's all in your head. I have been at a plateau for the last month I did of active girl chasing. However I like I said got worn out, tired, and just plain bored (plateau). I lost all inspiration for any further girl chasing after doing those 75 sets this year I was wiped the fark out like just riding a sick wave or getting back from a hard fought battle. It wipes you out then you take a season off to rethink and bam it hits you like a tidal wave like it did for me. If you are at a plateau it is likely your body and mind telling you, you need a break. This will be covered in my upcoming Essay "Project Iceshield" but to give you a brief insight here goes nothing.

    Plateaus-
    Like you mentioned inner and outer game. Great topic IMO TC. This would be called overall game (inner + outer) and you don't need me to get laid or meet girls man but you do need me to offer up a fresh perspective. Here's my perspective.

    Basically you are looking at this all wrong like I was don't worry not taking pot shots cutting myself down as well. You need to revamp and set a different path for your future as the current path is providing trial and tribulation (plateau) and you must find a way to correct this (self-improvement) so by doing this you may coming full circle and come out ahead (breaking the barrier or plateau) thus causing new inspiration (better overall game). Overall game will be covered soon in my essay but basically it's not just about girls man it's about you. If you put all your money and attention to girls certainly you will wind up disappointed but fraction out that insecurity and you will come out on top looking like an Alpha Dog.


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