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    sightnotseen is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default indirect opener, does she know or does she not

    Hey guys. so i've been thinking a bit about indirect openers. a question i have. is she meant to know for example if you open with " hey my friend and i are looking for a female opinion etc etc etc" is she meant to know she's getting hit on and that we are doing it in a new way to other guys, or is the plan to slip in under the rader as if she doesn't realise it till you're already in the conversation. kind of stuck with the process behind it. as i know intent plays a big part in female attraction
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    Default Re: indirect opener, does she know or does she not

    At first she's supposed to not be sure whether you're hitting on her or just chatting with people. Then you make her realize that actually you're absolutely not hitting on her (disqualification), and then you make her think that what she did made you hit on her (qualification)
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    sightnotseen is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: indirect opener, does she know or does she not

    ah i see what you're saying. that clears it up for me, thanks alot. not all that knowledgeable about disqualifiers and qualifiers yet. will have to check it out. thanks again man
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    Default Re: indirect opener, does she know or does she not

    Regardless of whether you go direct or indirect you still have to build attraction. If simply walking up to a girl and saying "hi, your cute, whats your name" got you a number and a date every time I'd be getting laid while writing this.

    Your intentions are clear when directly approaching, but you still have to attract her. When you go indirect the idea is to let her attraction first build and then demonstrate yours. Your simply starting a conversation at the point. As it progresses, assuming your game is going well, she begins to see you in a sexual light. This is where reading ioi's becomes important. Spotting them lets you know when you can shift gears a little and start to show interest yourself, and possibly Isolate.

    All in all, when done correctly they'll probably take the same amount of time based on your skill level. So as a general rule of thumb (of course there are exceptions) go direct in day game, and indirect at night.


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