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    Default Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    Okay like I said guys with "Project Iceshield" I am writing up I am on a seasonal break from meeting women or dating for the next 9 months till May or June. Now that may mean I will not spend money going out I may allow certain HB's into my life that are in the venues I am at where I am not spending money to attend. Just reconsidering the terms possibly.


    Anyway HB9 ice cold stunner walks into the Gym today. Long Blond hair looks like Christina Aguilera/ Lady Gaga kinda short, has a banging rack (full c cup), cleavage hanging out, smelling like sex on a stick. No problem right? Just ignore her. Well.....

    She walks in and immediately starts checking me out then approaches some guy with big muscles, normal female behavior. Dude looks Brazilian kind of average looking but huge muscles. Anyway just observed her and she controlled the whole conversation. Then one of the guys that work there started flirting with her and spraying her butt with something. Anyway I could tell she was a big flirt. But then when I was on the Military press she was scoping hard, over to another machine? Checked her in the mirror scoping hard again.


    Didn't open. It's a 2 set may not be able to go all commando over her arse having a reputation to uphold there. Anyway might open her on a low ball kinda of gutsy approach. Will post the details if it happens. My goal is to open her in the next 1-2 weeks. Wish me luck! Any advice for Gym openers would be great. Did only 1 this year as not a lot of hotties there but it was a bust. That's why I got to proceed with precision and pomp.

    Now to give you the full story she got on the treadmill and just stood there watching ME work out not the other guys. I move over there and she's looking over there now. Plenty of ioi's obviously to warrant an opener on her. The guy she was talking to didn't even seem like she was into him. May have been doing just for attention. Either way she looks like a real player, gold digger, high maintenance. And these girls only let me open them when I go up with a pompous attitude and a little sly. The funny thing is she was checking me out so hard and I am like the smallest guy there like 2 lbs shy of 175 and most guys are 180+. Bigger than some guys at work but not really at the Gym. Guess being good looking is the only thing I have going for me ughh. Need such a better body but oh well, it will come hopefully one day in a couple years.

    I am glad I didn't open her because it would have been a bust ("Hi how are you? I'm so and so."). I have noticed with these high maintenance ones you can not go in weak or instant rejection. She probably will give me a hard time even with a good solid opener. Probably the normal BF rejection or will play hard to get. With these chicks that like big muscles you notice the average good looking Brazilian guy she gave herself on a silver platter and just carried the convo for ages. But for me she will expect me to do all the talking and of course carry the convo. That's the way these HB9+'s are. They are ALWAYS this way with me. But guys with big muscles? Not the same story. It will be easier for them. Even if I do get buff guaranteed I may get farther but they will treat me the same because likely my looks intimadate them which makes them sh!t test me harder than average good looking men that are buff. I should have it easier but I don't. Either way this girl is NOT LTR material smash and dash kind of deal here. And there is NO WAY I will get oneitis with this one as I am getting much better with my inner game at playing them more than they are playing me. But they still play me good too let's not forget.

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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    You sound exactly like a kid I'm out with all the time. I'm a fairly big guy and he's constantly going on about how he's not big enough. Meanwhile, he's a pretty decent looking guy who gets all this unsolicited attention from women.

    Ultimately, for both you and him, you guys are using this "buff guys have it easier" statement as a crutch. You're using it to hold yourself back. If you're getting IOIs, then being buff vs. not being buff has nothing to do with it. From what you described, this is just a case of you seeing an opportunity, failing to capitalize on it, and then justifying it using some logic about how buff average looking guys have it easier. That's absurd.
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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDuke View Post
    You sound exactly like a kid I'm out with all the time. I'm a fairly big guy and he's constantly going on about how he's not big enough. Meanwhile, he's a pretty decent looking guy who gets all this unsolicited attention from women.

    Ultimately, for both you and him, you guys are using this "buff guys have it easier" statement as a crutch. You're using it to hold yourself back. If you're getting IOIs, then being buff vs. not being buff has nothing to do with it. From what you described, this is just a case of you seeing an opportunity, failing to capitalize on it, and then justifying it using some logic about how buff average looking guys have it easier. That's absurd.

    Your statement is profound. Truly profound. However profound it may be I still think I am at a disadvantage since being buff would give me more confidence. However I will remember what you said and like I said planning on opening her in the next couple of weeks just would have gone in weak today and that would have resulted in a massive fail. Will try to remember what you said for next time. Love your level of insight yes I failed to capitilize on it but I am all about timing and the timing wasn't right today since I was feeling kinda needy. Now I can better plan my opener and try to get off on the right foot here. This is going to suck I know I have my work cut out for me but I will try to open her and N-close her as per usual possibly next time I see her. Not so afraid to open, opened 75 girls this year and 1 of them was in the Gym. I just realize now there is no rush better to plan out your approach than hop on it right away. I know where she works out so I have a little time to capitilize is my thinking.


    Okay just found my opener! "Hey I thought you looked interesting so I want to come say hello." I have run openers like this on some Bar girls which was a rip roaring success (Hey I didn't want to lose the chance to talk to you, hey I just lost my place in line twice to come talk to you, etc). But yeah the opener just now hit me this is why I know today would have been a buzz kill for her since she was having fun I would have been too approval seeking guaranteed. But now that I have my opener I will be more confident.

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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    Don't know about you but I personally am a big believer in the 3 seconds rule.

    Whenever you spot a HB you really want, the longer you take to open her the more anxious you will become about it. You will start planning it and studying it from every angle possible, it will slowly crush your confidence.
    I've been there, and we've all been there I'm sure.

    Agreed with TheDuke, being big won't help here. As long as you look healthy it will be pretty much about what you say and how you say it (classic game).

    In my opinion? Just go like: "How have you been?" and whatever she says follow it up with "I came all the way from there to talk to you, I think you have a good posture. You play football?"

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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyOnPurpose View Post
    Don't know about you but I personally am a big believer in the 3 seconds rule.

    Whenever you spot a HB you really want, the longer you take to open her the more anxious you will become about it. You will start planning it and studying it from every angle possible, it will slowly crush your confidence.
    I've been there, and we've all been there I'm sure.

    Agreed with TheDuke, being big won't help here. As long as you look healthy it will be pretty much about what you say and how you say it (classic game).

    In my opinion? Just go like: "How have you been?" and whatever she says follow it up with "I came all the way from there to talk to you, I think you have a good posture. You play football?"

    Okay I smell a challenge, 3 second rule you say? Okay one thing to add to that I generally follow the 3 second rule at Clubs and Bars cuz you know you ain't seeing them again unless same venue. Sometimes however I like to think outside the box (prevents burn out) and literally almost as if on purpose waited 20 minutes to talk to a girl. Anyway some guy was hitting on her for that time and my 3 second window closed due to some guy giving me money. So I opened the 20 min after the guy left her alone and I ripped open that opener into next week (Hey I lost my place in line twice to come talk to you and not about to lose that opportunity now!). Now this is a little different for a few reasons. One? Likely you will see people in the Gym again. This is the 2nd time I seen her the first she was in her car leaving so no window there. Now she caught my attention but not enough to want to open her. You can call it aa if you like but remember what I say "caution is the better part of valor" and though I follow the 3 second rule generally speaking sometimes YOU HAVE to break the rules sometimes to get an HB's attention. I have opened girls at the 5 min mark, 10 min mark, 20 min mark, even 30 min after thinking a girl was long gone and then ran into her outside and again much more solid opener by waiting.

    You can't be too quick to go in because like I said I was feeling needy and I follow my gut which usually works in my favor. But yes I definitely agree I have opened many girls in the 3 second window and it went better than ever could have imagined had I waited. Opened a HB10 before on a 3 second but got slowly blown out. However the Word says (Guidebook for life, more like guidelines than actual rules) Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily.
    This is the word for life and just felt like dropping it while it was hot. It takes a bit of discernment to properly open an HB. Not to mention explains why some girls have opened better when I waited. But the 3 second rule still applies. I try to follow it regularly.

    Now I will respond to your challenge and attempt to follow the 3 second rule next time I see her there. I am giving it 2-3 weeks to see her again but going to push myself to open. You guys these girls aren't fawning all over themselves to have us so I don't think I really lost anything here. However I think that was a blow out waiting to happen there. Now that I have more information my last post (3rd post) in this thread will be my last hopefully with the results of the interaction. Will definitely attempt to close since anything else is just weak and making AFC conversation. With that said though let's not forget some women open better when you wait like I have found but sometimes when you don't wait and have a good solid opener they open up right away. I feel a blow out coming man but many HB9's have surprised me when I thought they would never go for me they ping on my opens and start fawning. Actually I have the most success with HB8-HB9's and the least success with HB6's, HB7's, and HB10's. So I think it is going to be a bit of a showdown between me and her. Now remember she didn't give the guy she was talking to any beef. But watch I will post my results here soon (2-3 weeks) and she will likely have busted my balls (sh!t tests guaranteed).

    But yes to prove your guy's point I have literally lost sets because I didn't follow the 3 second rule. Saw them one minute, 3 seconds later? Gone! But what I am saying it is good to follow the 3 second rule as a general rule but also sometimes better to wait as I have had success waiting but lost sets waiting. essentially you have to do both. Follow the rule and sometimes NOT follow the rule. Just depends on your gut.

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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    I agree with you that waiting can be the better strategy. What I don't agree with is using external factors outside your control for excuses. The fact that you said that you're at a disadvantage because "being buff would give me more confidence" tells me that this is not about being buff, but it's about your own self-worth. Confidence comes from the inside, not from being buff. Being buff, ripped, shredding, huge, whatever, may give you some confidence, but you really don't need it to have that confidence.

    Listen, you know what I post on. I'm a huge advocate of strength training and all that stuff. If you want to get jacked, I'm all for it. I think being physically fit and stronger will lead to a better life in all aspects. But it isn't a cure for self-image problems. But it will help. If you have questions about lifting, strength training, or bodybuilding, let me know.

    What's really funny about this all is that both you and my friend state that it's really easy for buff guys. But as a guy who's fairly large (I'm just over 6'0", I weigh 220 lbs, I have a 47" chest, and I have a bodyfat percentage of about 15% right now), I often feel that I'm at a disadvantage at the beginning of interactions. While I'm not massive, with girls I am big. I think women are definitely attracted to big guys because of the protection factor, but that attraction is often overpowered by self-preservation and rape defenses. Women realize that if I get them alone and I want to overpower them, there is absolutely nothing they can do physically.

    So my point is, there are downsides to this stuff no matter what side you come from. Everyone is going to think the grass is greener on the other side. The difference between my situation and your situation? It's not that one situation is better than the other. It's simply how we deal with it. For me, I know that in order to build sexual attraction that will lead somewhere, I have to build a lot more comfort first. So instead of letting this hold me back, I do silly things like sticking out my tongue and making faces. I keep it really light-hearted. I never approach from behind, because it scares the shit out of women to turn around and look into a wall of a guy. I also never approach straight on because it comes across as too aggressive. I grew up playing contact sports and I can get really aggressive, cocky, and alpha around other guys, but around women I keep those traits repressed until I've built enough comfort.

    However, for a smaller guy like yourself, you can come out full-blown cocky and aggressive. With a smaller guy who plays cocky, women are intrigued because they wonder, "This guy isn't very big but he's pretty high on himself. I wonder why?"

    Anyways, ultimately my point is don't use external factors outside your control as excuses. Instead, learn how to incorporate them into your game. For instance, some great openers you could have used are things like flexing when she looks at you and delivering a line like, "I know... I'm huge," with an arrogant grin on your face. You could have called her out on using the multi-mirror check out. There's so many things you could have done. Just stay confident in yourself!

    Keep hitting the gym too! But remember, gains are made mostly in the kitchen!
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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    I don't think your buffness (if that's a word), weight or height play as big a role as your confidence. I've seen ugly fat dudes with gorgeous women and good looking guys lonely. I'm a prime example, I've had two women say I looked like a model, while I was shopping in two different clothing stores. Then why the hell aren't women jumping all over me?! Because, not until recently, did I know what inner game was. It's not about looking a certain way; it's all about the energy exude. I exuded a lame, wussy, cowardly, unconfident, tail-between-my-legs attitude, while those ugly guys had an Alpha Male presence.

    I've been in the company of short guys that had such a powerful presence, that woman were naturally drawn toward them. I believe a new Mindset has to be established before you start becoming great with women.

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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    Picking up any chick in the gym is nearly impossible. Essentially, their is way too much competition, and you already know she is an attention seeking female. You need to build rapport w this attention seeking female, even by asking if she's using a piece of equipment, or if anyone is using the elliptical by her. You can escalate it a day or two at a time. You have to come at the 9's at the gym differently, bc they are dressing slutty for attention. They may even have a boyfriend or husband. This is for A+ quality pua's.

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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    Funny as it sounds... two days ago at the gym, two HB8s come in wearing the tightest sexy gym clothes and walk straight to the treadmills. You could notice almost every guy staring at them, checking them out. They just get on the treadmills, take out a book each and fucking start reading.

    That in my opinion, is an attention seeking stunt. It was so obvious they weren't really reading, also they were not really there to train. I say that by the work on the hair and a bit of makeup.

    Nothing a couple of negs couldn't penetrate through.

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    Default Re: Gym Target Aquired: Mission Impossible

    You don't even need to neg that. Just call out the behavior. Calling a girl's behavior out works wonders. It shows social awareness and also brings them back down to earth.
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