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    The easy way to handle any alpha is to be polite to him, but act disinterested by his rap/accomplishments using tonality/body language (without coming off as patronizing/sarcastic) while simultaneously being charming to others around you. This will drop his perceived value and cause him to qualify himself to try and raise it back up. He can't fight you or do Sh1t like that, and he can't move to insults, because you've been polite and in doing so he would be making himself look VERY BAD. The only tactic vs this is to walk away. If you reward him just enough to encourage further qualifying but not enough to make him feel validated again he will fall into line as beta in relation to you. I blow out rich men in power outfits.

    This Sh1t works -ALL THE TIME if you do it right they will work VERY HARD to be your friend.

    Ultra quick and effective AMOG destroyer:
    This is just like the JAP Busting stuff, where you say "you're cool", as a way of tricking him to qualify himself to you.
    He's stuck, because if he DOES do well, he's qualified himself to you. If he doesn't, he's failed to. The only answer he would have would be to say back to you "hey now, you're cool.. I didn't mean to step on your toes man.. You're a smart guy, keep talking to her and I'll watch and learn man!"..

    Of course to that, you could reply, "You just met me and you already say I'm smart and cool? hahah"

    More AMOG destroyer:
    AMOG: How do you guys know eachother?
    PUA: Her? I farked her.
    (Girl will go "aaaaaaaaah... hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she'll hit you and be giggling and start crawling all over you...).
    AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
    PUA: Her.. she's a slut..
    (Again, girl will start going "nooooo!" while giggling her ass off and crawling on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)
    AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
    PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
    (Girls will go "no no no... we love you PUA.. noooooo" and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)
    AMOG: Hey girls what's up (or whatever)
    PUA: Dude, OMG that shirt is AWESOME.. I had one just like it in high-school, it farking rocks man.. Having a good time in London man.. It's awesome huh? Dude you're like the coolest guy I met all night.. (patting him on the shoulder)..
    AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
    PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha.. ok ok hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first... we'll have an arm wrestling competition.. then second.. we'll do one armed pushups.. and last..... POSE-DOWN!! (then you start flexing and go "ladies?", and they start saying how you're so strong, and the AMOG looks like a tool.. you're tooling him, by making him seem like he's trying too hard to impress the girls by showing them superiority).
    AMOG: Hey man.. keep talking.. no no, let's hear your pitch man.. pick these girls up man, you're doing awesome.
    PUA: Hey, you know I've gotta try to impress you COOL (x-city, x-dressed, x-whateverquality) guys.. You guys farking ROCK. (cut him down on whatever limited amount of knowledge you have of him, even if its not relevant whatsoever, he'll feel uncomfortable and his bodylanguage will show it)
    AMOG: (starts touching you to show dominance)
    PUA: hahhaha, DUUUUDE, I'm not into guys man... dude, there's club-gay-whatever over there man.. hands off the merchandise buddy (girls laugh at him, then he starts qualifying himself to you that he's not gay)
    AMOG: (gets in your face)
    PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you, the more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself.. so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to make "let's get out of here" girl code with your eyes to the girls (mimic what they do to each other when you do a bad set), and they'll leave with you)
    AMOG: (gets in your face)
    PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
    AMOG: what's that..
    PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots.. you can put your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha.. (farks up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized all his manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear to be qualifying himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale.. whoa tiger, I can't mess")
    PUA: That was really good man, you're like a comedian.

    OR, if the dude is out-alpha'ing you, keep going until he's TOO into it, and then let him do a bunch of condescending Sh1t on you in a row. Look at the girls like you're bored or sad, and because he's talking TOO MUCH he's therefore qualifying himself to you and losing. Then say to the girls "he's playing the condescension game.. I already won so I stopped now.. who do you guys think won, me or him?" (key is that you looked SAD so the girls start going "awww, he's so sweet", so they'll say you won because they love you now)

    For super aggressive AMOGs who try to pick fights
    AMOG: blah blah..
    PUA: Dude, are you pissed that you're rolling with all guys?
    AMOG: blah blah
    PUA: dude, your all guy crew is so slick man.. where are your girls dude, what happened tonight?
    AMOG: let's go outside..
    PUA: guy man, I'm with chicks right now.. I'M INTO CHICKS.. I can't get into this experimental kinky Sh1t with you right now, I have my hands full.. (misinterpreting that he was trying to sleep with you, not fight you)
    AMOG: blah blah..
    PUA: dude, that shirt rocks.. Tommy Hilfiger.. awesome.. man, back in highschool I used to have the one with like all these cool stripes on it.. it was awesome..
    AMOG: fight blah blah..
    PUA: guy man, these chicks just told me that they dig you like so bad.. you don't have to fight to prove yourself to them.. they think you're an alpha male dude.. you don't need to try so HARD man.. just BE REAL..
    Once you get the guy to qualify himself to you in any way (like he tries to make friends), rather than being nice, IMMEDIATELY cut him out of the circle. Just cut him out. You'll notice trying to SHUT YOUR GAME DOWN by bombarding you with logical questions. They'll start pummeling you with logical stuff, so that you have to answer him the girls fall out of state. For me I found the solution was just to say "hey man, don't get all scientific on me.. we're here to have fun.." and then immediately start gaming the girls again.

    BTW, if I'm out with any of my GFs at a club, and another guy hits on them, I use the same tactics on AMOGS to stop them.

    When you cut him out of the circle, he'll either leave (too deflated), or he'll try to grab your shoulder and say something like "don't turn your back on me". From there, the girls think he's creepy, so you say "hey guys, this dude is creepy.. are you friends with this guy?? did YOU bring this guy here?"

    The girls will say "no no no, we don't know him", and you say "OK, let's get out of here", and put out your arms for them to grab. Then walk away with the girls on your arms, and if you want (I do this alot) turn around and have them both kiss you on the cheek and wave the AMOG goodbye.

    Also, you can USE the AMOG's WORK for yourself. Like he lines 'em up, you knock 'em down.

    This is something I do alot. I let a guy pick a girl up and increase her buying temperature, then I go in and out-alpha him, say he's creepy to the girls, and then remove them from him.

    The girls are already aroused, so they are still in state based on what the AMOG did. I can do this like maybe on 90% of sets I approach where a natural AMOG has gotten far with a girl.

    Basically, I just make the friends of the girl who is getting gamed on by the AMOG like me. Like, they want me, but they know they're not qualified but their friend is.

    Then I say "Hey I want to meet your friend so much, but that touchy grabby lean in guy is all over her.. is she just being nice, or does she really like guys who lean in and touch and do all the 'whats your name' fake un-genuine stuff?"

    The UGs are invariably like "no no, we hate guys like that.. that's why we love you so much blah blah", and then you get the FRIENDS to literally REMOVE the hottie that you want from the AMOG who is conveniently heating her up for you and saving you the hassle.

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    Default Re: 100% AMOG DESTROYER

    I like your list, and you have some good ones. I always hate to engage AMOG's with destroyers whenever possible because it makes you look b1tchy or threatened. I much prefer to assist them in over qualify themselves to ad nausem or wait until the women get pissed of with his behavior and then trash the guy with a cheap destroyer. If the guy appears to be a cool guy, and he is bringing good game, I tend to take a, "May the best guy win" approach. If I don't get the girl, I can always make friends with the guy and maybe learn some good stuff from him.

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    I go in with the attitude, and this isn't me psyching myself up, I know this to be true, that wherever I am, I am the alpha male of the group. I don't need any strategies. I go in, and I entertain the guys first, then the girls. I've never had a problem unless the guy was trashed, and then, I just laugh at him with the group and he usually ends up slurring "I like you man!!".

    I think if you create strategy against the AMOG, you've already decided that you aren't that.

    The real strategy, dont make the last AMOG or, and this happens more then that, the last Amog's friend, feel like he's having his group taken from him, cause he will feel uncomfortable at first. Treat the other men kindly, care about their feelings, really.

    If a guy walks up to me to try to amog me, I start running pick up on him immediately, he usually ends up talking me up by the end of the conversation. Anger towards a stranger is always a defense from yourself, if I let him know right up, don't worry, we aren't going there bro, your safe, then your amog problems are gone.

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    Default Re: 100% AMOG DESTROYER

    Definitely. If the AMOG thinks you are a friend, he is no longer an AMOG and may actually help your game.

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    Default Re: 100% AMOG DESTROYER

    Remember that the best way to disable an AMOG is with humor and to put him in a situation where he feels socially uncomfortable provoking or continuing his aggro behavior.

    Beware the difference between theory and reality, however. As a martial arts instructor, I can tell you that when a man like this feels provoked back, and if he intends to start shit, you're going to fight. Something clicks inside their dipshit mentality that just can't be stopped. So you have to learn how to read them before you start throwing a cute line at them.

    Agreed, these guys are relatively rare these days. Fact is, most guys are pussies. Watch fight club when the guys are given the assignment to go out and get into a fight. The situations are pretty realistic. Most people just don't have the belly for a physical confrontation.

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    Dispite having a background in wrestling and Tae Kwon Do, I avoid fighting at all costs. In almost all cases it's unnecessary and disrupts everyone's good time. Essentially, it shows that you are insecure and cannot control yourself and must express yourself violently. I've gotten good at deterring macho guys who want to fight and agree with carlosxuma. The best way to deal with these guys is to maintain your cool and make them feel awkard or foolish for being aggressive.

    Here's an example of what happened to me the other day:

    I entered a party and immediately I am sucked into a conversation about two guys who want to start a wrestling match. While they are mostly being playful about it, one of the guys turns to me and the conversation goes like this:

    Pseudo Tough Guy: "Come on man let's do it right now, let's wrestle!"
    Me: *laughing* "What? No dude, I don't want to wrestle you haha".
    PTG: *trying to egg me on* "Come on man, I'll clear out this whole room right now, don't go chicken on me"
    Me: "Look man, I'm not interested. I didn't come here to wrestle, I came to hang out and have a good time"
    PTG: "Let's do it man. DId you wrestle in high school?"
    Me: "Actually yes. And I'm pretty good too."
    PTG: "Oh so you think you'd kick me ass huh??"
    Me: "Well... no offense but, yes."
    PTG: *at this point he is no longer playful in any way and is getting aggressive* "Yeah you think you could kick me ass huh???"
    Me: Yeah dude I guess I could. Anyways bud, I'm gonna go and check out what people are up to. Have fun trying to get guys to roll around on this dirty-ass floor. *I smile, pat him on the shoulder and leave*

    The party ended up being lame, and on my way out I pat him on the shoulder, smile again and say "Peace out man". The look on his face was priceless.

    The good thing is, most guys are not this aggressive, unless really smashed. Even AMOGs will be friendly as long as you are friendly and confident back, unless you are hitting on a girl they are into or something. In my opinion, a real alpha isn't overly aggressive.

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    ^ Cool, calm, collected, in control and confident.

    Well done.

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    Default Re: 100% AMOG DESTROYER

    I had a similar occurrence at a beer hall awhile back. I am fairly short and skinny, but I am also very well trained in martial arts. Anyway, I am playing pool with a friend, and all the sudden this dude comes up and starts heckling me:

    Other Guy: I could totally kick your ass (He was very clear in body posture and tone that he wasn't talking about the game. He was pretty smashed.)
    Me: You probably could at pool, I am sucking up this game pretty bad. (the truth, but I turned and faced him, sized him up, and looked him right in the eye)
    OG: Well let's go right here. (Put's his fists up).
    (I look over at my friend, and he gives me a nod to let me know he has my back. I didn't want to attempt my next move unless he was there to jump in.)
    Me: (Calmly turned my back on the dude to make my shot, but kept the back of the pool stick ready so I could bring it around into his head if he tried anything) Sorry man, I'm busy with this game but maybe we can play some other time.
    OG: (Shakes his head and starts to walk off)
    Me: (Finishes shot, then turns his direction) Have a good night, man.

    The whole time, I was redirecting his attacks by pretending that I thought he was talking about the pool game. The rest of it, was just not engaging him physically or verbally, and making sure I didn't show any signs of weakness or cowardice. It was a good thing he walked away because I was pretty certain that I was going to have to drive that pool stick into the side of his head, and I really really didn't want to deal with the court system.

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    Default Re: 100% AMOG DESTROYER

    would over complementing the appearance of an AMOG work?

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    Default Re: 100% AMOG DESTROYER

    thanks choppingthetop...I forgot about the hundred dollars one ! This is a great one...as well as the other. Thanks a ton !

    Grex - IMO I think that over-complimenting him could give off a worse vibe than it could help you....are you needy and try hard for his approval? are you gay and have a HUGE thing for fashion? or if he is not dressed really nice it shows that you do not good taste if you are over-complimenting him on things that shouldn't be big deal.

    IMO you should almost always try to befriend an AMOG until he crosses the line. If you start with being friendly, having a good time, fun to be around, and set things up right with your structure you should be easily able to keep your value while making him look like an outsider, prick, not-cool, and/or awkward if and when he does go in for a low blow.


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