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    Default Direct approach, what do you say next?

    Alright, so my Mindset here is totally blocked, this I know. Approach Anxiety strikes and although I'm able to speak, my body language sucks, and I have no idea where to lead the interaction. I have attempted to go direct a couple of times in the past week. Unfortunately my area is bare and I've only seen 4 potential hot babes. Of the four I finally found myself saying to one that her hat was awesome and it made her look super cute. Everything was off, I could feel it, and considering I had already walked past her 3 times, the set was stalled. But as she was slowly ejecting the awkward situation and saying thank you (with a smile) I found myself wondering, "damn, what comes next."

    ...You approach the girl say "hi, I know your shopping, but I couldn't help noticing how cute you were and I wanted to say hello." Alright check. Sh1t, now what. cold read? Routine? Introduction? What the frig do you do next?

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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    You could try "Hi, my name is Bballking". Don't ask "What is your name" If she gives her name, there is some level of interest.

    You can then do the prolonged hand shake/hold. You keep her hand in yours as you talk to her, keep it for as long as she will let you. Tell her she has really soft hands, but don't just stand there and stare at her, you have to talk too.

    This next move I have only done 2 times, and for me it is still ballsy to do. After I have held her hand, and gotten some ioi's, I will tell her I have a big heart, and take her hand and put it on my heart. I seen "The Good Looking Loser" - youtube/google him - do this. The 2 times I did it, it went over well. Not like the girl dropped her panties, but it escalated the interaction. I still have challenges doing it. And keep in mind, both times the girls had been drinking. One of the times I was drinking and the second time I was sober.

    These are just ideas, I guess in hindsight I am talking about Kino. Just be cautious of a woman's personal space. A hand shake gets over that hump, the prolonged hold, and swinging of your hands is playful.

    I hope this helps. Give it a shot, and remember not all the girls you approach have to be HB8 or higher. Talk to everyone, guys too. The more you practice talking to strangers at the grocery store, bus stop, mall, elevator, the more comfortable you will become talking to everyone, no matter how hot or not hot they are.

    Just be friendly and remember to smile as much as possible. A lot of times I'll get out of my car and see someone going to there car, guy or girl, and I will acknowledge them, "How's it going?", "Nice car", "it is Hawt today". And unless they are in a pissy mood, they usually always respond with an up beat positive vibe.

    Next thing you know, the girl you said "Hi" to a few days ago, you bump into at the community centre. Now you already have some former interaction. "Were you at the BEst Buy parking lot a few days ago?", "I thought that was you" Blah, blah, blah.

    I hope this helps. Practise my friend.

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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    Quote Originally Posted by easyflow View Post
    I hope this helps. Give it a shot, and remember not all the girls you approach have to be HB8 or higher. Talk to everyone, guys too. The more you practice talking to strangers at the grocery store, bus stop, mall, elevator, the more comfortable you will become talking to everyone, no matter how hot or not hot they are.

    Just be friendly and remember to smile as much as possible. A lot of times I'll get out of my car and see someone going to there car, guy or girl, and I will acknowledge them, "How's it going?", "Nice car", "it is Hawt today". And unless they are in a pissy mood, they usually always respond with an up beat positive vibe.

    Next thing you know, the girl you said "Hi" to a few days ago, you bump into at the community centre. Now you already have some former interaction. "Were you at the BEst Buy parking lot a few days ago?", "I thought that was you" Blah, blah, blah.

    I hope this helps. Practise my friend.
    This is the core of it. ^

    Your goal must not be to memorize lines to say, you must aim for having a banter that just flows.

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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    preparation ahead in this dyn trumps failure most times.have something you are going to say next like a story, few statements, actually having a conversation. if you may..

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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bballking View Post
    Alright, so my mindset here is totally blocked, this I know. Approach Anxiety strikes and although I'm able to speak, my body language sucks, and I have no idea where to lead the interaction. I have attempted to go direct a couple of times in the past week. Unfortunately my area is bare and I've only seen 4 potential hot babes. Of the four I finally found myself saying to one that her hat was awesome and it made her look super cute. Everything was off, I could feel it, and considering I had already walked past her 3 times, the set was stalled. But as she was slowly ejecting the awkward situation and saying thank you (with a smile) I found myself wondering, "damn, what comes next."

    ...You approach the girl say "hi, I know your shopping, but I couldn't help noticing how cute you were and I wanted to say hello." Alright check. Sh1t, now what. cold read? Routine? Introduction? What the frig do you do next?
    First off you are getting off on the wrong foot here going direct. "Project Iceshield" Part 1: Inner Game talks about many indirect openers and they prove to be increasingly more effective to go indirect whether day or night. To me going direct strictly means "Tell her she is hot" but in a nice way, creative way, Flirty NEG, etc. I went direct once in a Club and it went well we were laughing and dancing 5 seconds later all I said was "Hey you're hot." weak I know but at the time it worked and she was in my arms 5 seconds later like I said. But however the other time I did go direct was on a HB10 and she hated my guts for using a "Nice butt" opener I evened tried salvaging by saying I wanted her to be my GF but she just would not let the butt thing go. What I am saying is going Direct is for the big boys and takes serious amounts of calibration one because my Direct openers have always been weak and I have only used them twice.


    I did come up with a classic direct opener I will be using next year though "Sexy Elf" and will see how that goes. For now though warming up, getting started you will have the most luck opening indirect whether Nightgame or Daygame. Direct may work better in the day but I noticed girls respond either way as long as it is calibrated. Another thing is I am not saying direct won't work just saying it is not the best route. Will be going more direct more often to try my luck on HB10's and however it may seem I recommend going direct on HB10's as I will be trying to run quite a few openers on the HB10's next year if I find any (they are hard to find HB9's are more common though).
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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    I feel like the awkwardness and everything else wouldn't surface if you were going direct. I dont think you're being direct per se. Matter of fact, i know youre not being direct because the example you provided at the end basically said "Hey i know youre time is more valuable than mine and I go crazy for cute girls".

    Being direct means youre straight up telling her why youre interacting with her. Therefore you wouuld say something like " Hey you look like someone I'd like to get to know" If she responds negatively to that I'll say nevermind!
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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    Thanks guys, this helped. I get the even flow banter thing but I put talking to girls on par to giving a speech. If your not comfortable yet, and you haven't prepared, chances are your going to bomb. It seems like you need a little material to fall back on, even for direct day game. Maybe not something completely scripted but a solid cold read, or an already noticed observation of your environment. Banter is great, I've seen this from experience on my in-state days, but can be extremely difficult otherwise. It seems as if banter makes all the difference in the game, if you can't do it... your not going to see results.

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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    Sometimes you don't need much banter.think structures via attraction.
    a few openers should do.

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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    Transition is what matters more than open. She says, "Thank you" about your compliment to hat. Follow up with "Oh wow! You actually seem really friendly. [open ended question]" Now, you've turned from open to regular conversation and banter as you go.

    Does that help?

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    Default Re: Direct approach, what do you say next?

    What I would advise to do and what I do myself when this happens is to simply relax and breathe. Here's why: 1) if you relax you will be able to think more clearly and be able to form a solid conversation and 2) she can see and feel when you are tense therefore she becomes tense and is harder to work with. I would just relax and be casual and light. This is also another reason why your body language is off.


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