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    Default whats a good beginner's program to read?

    hey guys i cant say I'm a complete beginner but i have moved up a level, which in my terms would be getting over Approach Anxiety and yeah. I was about to buy pandora's box system but through reviews i have read that this is not for beginners and i was wondering what would be good stuff to read upon for just a little over beginner. I am only 19 and i want to get really good and mission to become a PUA!

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    Default Re: whats a good beginner's program to read?

    I wrote a thread based on my experience, journey, and story. This is just part 1 of a 3 part series. But anyway spent a lot of money going out this year $1200 to be exact and learned A LOT. Frankly got stuck at every point and there is a huge learning curve from everything to Approaching, to Closing, to Texting, to Dating, to Relationships. Basically I had a sticking point at every juncture. For instance when I started all this I focused solely on and cared about nothing else but my Approaches. I had massive aa and a huge fear to overcome. Then when I started approaching I hated my openers so I made them more situational and made them better. Then it made my mid-game better since I got instant pings, instant Kino, instant N-closes, on a freaking open man that's classic. But then again I have been rejected on the open so you know it happens.

    Then I got stuck in the closing and hated closing when I got good at opening. Felt like couldn't close worth jack and that's where it's at. Then I got good at Kino and Closing and hated the texting. Despised the texting thought to myself "I'm good at game but man I hate the next day." Also got the shaft after my first couple of texts or NEVER got a response even sometimes days, or weeks later. Then I got good at the texting and started getting sometimes INSTANT replies and carrying things on for days.

    Then I thought "K" but "I could never get a date". I just wanted to go on a date, hadn't been on a date in 7 years. Come on why can't I get a hot freaking date! Then went on a date and got a GF. So I officially got past all my sticking points. But then I got a GF. In the end I had to drop her due to being broke and couldn't take her out no more.

    I finally cracked the getting a GF code. Now I can get from point A to point B. Basically my best game is the "Long Game" as in go for the time investment to get the lay as opposed to SNL game which I cannot pull off. So in essence I decided to push my GF away and told her to hit the road. I essentially decided to take a break from women because I got so good but at the same time so burnt out ie jaded. I was just a jaded PUA not even having fun anymore just felt like too much work. Then I realized how much it costs to date and backed out because it was getting expensive to be dating her while still going out.

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    This caused me to create a conclusion for myself that the path to most girl's hearts is through dating. And this is not just some girls I met but pretty much all of them. They all responded well to the dating concept whether I met them at Church, the Club, Bars, doing Daygame, etc. So I decided on a short term break for 9 months from meeting women because I realized what most all interactions for me lead.....to a date then to more dates. Which lead to me to re-discover the Game as it lead me to find out about Outer Game which is what Project Iceshield is about.
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    Default Re: whats a good beginner's program to read?

    I'm assuming you've read The Game? haha
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    Default Re: whats a good beginner's program to read?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bimmer View Post
    I'm assuming you've read The Game? haha
    yeah i reaad the game and day game by roosh v.. i go to college and his approach to day game is bit slow for me.. but good. any other suggestions?

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    Default Re: whats a good beginner's program to read?

    I'm assuming you've read The Game? haha
    man I always hate it when people tell u that the game is the first pua book you need to read. yes it is a good book and yes it does have some wisdom about getting girls. but it has no breakdowns of any techniques or tactics for getting girls. it is more of a story book than a guide.

    a good beginners book would be either "how to meet and connect with women" by wayne elise or "natural game" by gambler. (both of witch are e-books that can be found on the internet for free!)
    they are both pretty in-depth and will get you pointed in the right direction.

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    Default Re: whats a good beginner's program to read?

    I agree. I've also tried Make Women Want You by Jason Capitol. It's an interesting read and I've had mild success with it, but i believe that it's for intermediate PUAs, not for beginners. But i would still recommend buying it

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    Default Re: whats a good beginner's program to read?

    Start with Mystery Method. It lays down the fundamentals better than any other book. A lot of people on here bitch and complain that it's about gambits and it's better to go natural, but the fact is that even if you go natural, the stages of attraction, comfort, and seduction, along with the components of each individual stage remains the same.

    After you've read that, you can pick up any other pua book and understand what they are saying on a much deeper level. As a caution, be careful of a lot of inner game type books. They tend to just tell you to be a better person and you'll get women. While this makes an excellent positive statement, as a normative statement it is rather lacking. I take it you know you need to be better, that's why you're here. The real question is how to do that.

    So....go buy Mystery Method.
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    Default Re: whats a good beginner's program to read?

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    man I always hate it when people tell u that the game is the first pua book you need to read. yes it is a good book and yes it does have some wisdom about getting girls. but it has no breakdowns of any techniques or tactics for getting girls. it is more of a story book than a guide.

    a good beginners book would be either "how to meet and connect with women" by wayne elise or "natural game" by gambler. (both of witch are e-books that can be found on the internet for free!)
    they are both pretty in-depth and will get you pointed in the right direction.
    Hahaha funny thing is, that wasn't even the first content of PUAism that I read. I started with Double Your Dating by David D.
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    Default Re: whats a good beginner's program to read?

    Check out foundations and transformations by RSD.

    Also, check out RSD's free content.

    I'd say watch foundations and start approaching. You can't learn swimming by reading, you can't learn pick-up by reading.


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