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Thread: My AA is out of this world!

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    Default My AA is out of this world!

    I've been reading techniques, openers, everything and when I am reading all of this it sounds so easy and i'm confident as hell to go out and practice. However, as soon as I go out and walk into a bar or club my aa goes insane. I suddenly forget everything I read and do everything i'm not supposed to do. If I do somehow approach a woman, I usually get "the look" which is basically them staring at you in confusion of why you even approached them in the first place, which wipes me out entirely right at that moment.

    I've tried affirmations, 3 second rules, watching field reports with mystery and sasha, as well as reading books by style and richard la ruina.

    I don't know what to do. I know I overthing it wayyyyy too much but I just don't know how to break out of that. I know once I get over my AA i'll be good to go but its just getting over it that is the hard part for me. Help me out fellas, I really need it.

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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    Have you ever tried neurolinguistic programming (NLP) for a change? It will defeat limiting beliefs within you..research about the book..unstoppable confidence how to be more dynamic and successful..trust me you gonna like it..goodluck!!!

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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    as soon as I go out and walk into a bar or club my aa goes insane.
    ah, right here is where you're messing up, you're going to clubs to learn how to approach girls when you aren't ready for that kind of high-pressure environment. instead start by approaching Hired Guns in day game scenarios, they won't ever blow you off (they get paid to be friendly to customers)

    back when I had some AA about a year ago, I would go to a mall, and just go to every store there and chat up the ladies who worked there, so long as you're friendly they will be friendly towards you (especially since you are a potential customer) if you can't think of anything to say, just ask them about a product they sell, be sure to find out how their day is going, how busy are they, or anything else that would be easy for them to answer
    (later on you can start flirting with these hired guns for practice as well)

    I think your problem is simple, you're trying to move too fast, progress takes time and real experience, no book can give you that.

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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    So is mine. My aa sucks too. It has been kicking my butt lately in the day game arena but I'll get over that hump eventually as well. Your problem is you are likely approaching too high quality of women too early on in the night. There's something called warming up on here to get you in state. Basically you start your night early in the Bars and Clubs around 10pm on 6's and 7's. Then when 11 hits you should have the jitters done with and gotten a little in state then you start up on the 8's and 9's. And when 12 hits you should be so with it approaching a 10 is easy. I can show up at 12am now at the local Bar and approach and 10 without question. I don't need to warm up any more but it still builds my state if I do. I am just saying I always used warm ups every night starting out before approaching a game winner, ice cold stunner, or dimepiece. But I didn't start out approaching 10's I ended up there. Once you get the basics down you can focus on the set and learn to approach without too much trouble.
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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    Quote Originally Posted by genuineheckel View Post
    I've been reading techniques, openers, everything and when I am reading all of this it sounds so easy and i'm confident as hell to go out and practice. However, as soon as I go out and walk into a bar or club my aa goes insane. I suddenly forget everything I read and do everything i'm not supposed to do. If I do somehow approach a woman, I usually get "the look" which is basically them staring at you in confusion of why you even approached them in the first place, which wipes me out entirely right at that moment.

    I've tried affirmations, 3 second rules, watching field reports with mystery and sasha, as well as reading books by style and richard la ruina.

    I don't know what to do. I know I overthing it wayyyyy too much but I just don't know how to break out of that. I know once I get over my AA i'll be good to go but its just getting over it that is the hard part for me. Help me out fellas, I really need it.
    Start with Hired Guns and go from there. Use functional openers to start. Incredibly low risk. I wouldn't read anything else on AA if I were you. Just going to enforce it more. One thig that can help you is learning to be more social in general, not just with girls, so then there isn't as much pressure on talking to girls because you talk with everyone.

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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    Not gonna say it's your problem, but it's a start, the club and bar scene is a completely different atmosphere so your day routines and long in depth openers are unconventional in those scenarios most the time. Id say you gotta become familiar with the type of women who frequent bars and keep your routines tailored to the moment and atmosphere, most of all bounce and create that social proof throughout the night look into body language reading techniques and learn how to read those invites and vibes given by most women as you browse. aa is something in YOU holding YOU back, best way to get over it is to get over it with madd practice.
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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    Step one day game.

    Step two approach and learn; success is great but a good crash and burn carries a lesson that you can take from that experience.

    So the only way to manage it is practice
    Learn to be a better person not a better player.

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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    Quote Originally Posted by genuineheckel View Post
    I've been reading techniques, openers, everything and when I am reading all of this it sounds so easy and i'm confident as hell to go out and practice. However, as soon as I go out and walk into a bar or club my aa goes insane. I suddenly forget everything I read and do everything i'm not supposed to do. If I do somehow approach a woman, I usually get "the look" which is basically them staring at you in confusion of why you even approached them in the first place, which wipes me out entirely right at that moment.

    I've tried affirmations, 3 second rules, watching field reports with mystery and sasha, as well as reading books by style and richard la ruina.

    I don't know what to do. I know I overthing it wayyyyy too much but I just don't know how to break out of that. I know once I get over my AA i'll be good to go but its just getting over it that is the hard part for me. Help me out fellas, I really need it.
    For me the opposite is true. The minute I get to Clubs and Bars I have to hold back from approaching since I am feeling so confident but make myself wait till 11pm to get warmed up then hit it up like no problem. However the minute I walk into a day game arena such as Water Park, Outdoor Mall, Holiday Event I freeze and don't know what to do. I plan on jumping out of the airplane (Mystery Method's Analogy) regardless come next Summer. I still remember the 9 from the Water Park in the bikini I never approached, isolated and just easy game or the 10 at the Outdoor Mall with the Old People I never approached would have been so easy looking back on it.

    I think your main problem is it is a sticking point for you and you are talking yourself down. I never talk myself down before a Set (unless AA at King Sooopers LOL) and just come up with my best canned opener or a new creative opener for the moment. The chicks at Bars & Clubs are very high quality and hard to game but so are the Day Game ones both arenas have their perks. Either way you need to get out there and explore life by approaching some Sets. Remember what Mystery says you MUST remove the fear of foreign territories first. You do this by becoming a regular to the Bars & Clubs and getting to know people as well as hitting up the Holiday Events often (annually if possible) and buying a season pass to a Water Park. I think your biggest problem is you have the fear of foreign territories on top of the fear of the approach.

    I noticed approaching at Bars & Clubs is so comfortable for me because I visit the same spots, know the Bartenders, Managers, Servers, Cocktail Waitresses, Dj's, other Regulars, and sometimes even make friends. In these regards have a small social circle (or at least point people and a warm up routine) you get in a conversational mood. This is easy to lift your state at Night. I am still trying to figure out a warm up routine for like a Water Park or Outdoor Mall since those events seem harder to handle but again this because I have my inhibitions regarding Day Game. Either way next year I will start approaching at Beer Festivals, buy a Season Pass for a Water Park, and hit up some Holiday Events to figure out how to do that type of Pick Up.
    101 Sets, 30 #'s, 4 K-closes, 1 Date, 1 Bar Pull. My next adventure starts Summer 2014 at the Brewfest, Water Park, Bars, Clubs, etc. Getting Hotels now to prevent driving drunk so really only 2-3 times a month doing Night Game June-Oct. Lots of Day Game.

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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    That is a good point in bars and clubs make good with the bartenders, regulars, managers and similar. That is also good for dhv because it is social proof your time is valuable to others which makes you a higher value target yourself. Not to mention it helps you get rid of that aa. So win win.
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    Default Re: My AA is out of this world!

    One thing I teach that has helped out guys through the years is to remove the possibility of a pick up from the equation. Adopt the mentality that you are not going to hit on this woman and you have no intention of escalating the sarge. Your mission is simply to walk up, exchange a few words and eject. Somehow, removing the pressure of the seduction seems to take the pressure off and ease aa. Give it a shot and good luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by genuineheckel View Post
    I've been reading techniques, openers, everything and when I am reading all of this it sounds so easy and i'm confident as hell to go out and practice. However, as soon as I go out and walk into a bar or club my AA goes insane. I suddenly forget everything I read and do everything i'm not supposed to do. If I do somehow approach a woman, I usually get "the look" which is basically them staring at you in confusion of why you even approached them in the first place, which wipes me out entirely right at that moment.

    I've tried affirmations, 3 second rules, watching field reports with mystery and sasha, as well as reading books by style and richard la ruina.

    I don't know what to do. I know I overthing it wayyyyy too much but I just don't know how to break out of that. I know once I get over my AA i'll be good to go but its just getting over it that is the hard part for me. Help me out fellas, I really need it.


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