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  1. #1
    lez999 Guest

    Default is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    Guys i think I've been totally blown out of the water.

    I have a friend that I have been getting a LOT closer with over the last few weeks. She broke up with a long-term boyfriend a couple of months ago and we have been upping the ante. We've been talking pretty much everyday and I have been flirting especially with sexual jokes.

    I've stayed at her place a couple of times. Her body language was good and she was pretty flirtatious with the long eye contact etc. But every time i would slightly up the level with the body contact like hold her leg with my arm or something she would somehow move. One time we were lying horizontally on the bed and she actually got to do something and then when she came back to lie in bed she went to sleep not next to me but vertically in the bed.

    Anyway, long story short, I was gonna have a dinner at mine last night, I cancelled it but I had already invited her. I asked her if she was still coming and she asked if she is still invited. I said if you want to but don't feel obliged. She said no, no I want to come etc.

    Anyway she came and we had dinner with her and my flat mate. It ended being late and she said she should go but I said I wasnt letting her go back so late and she didn't put up much of a fight. We were lying in bed and again her body language was good and we were playing a little. she took a book of mine and wanted me to test her on the topics. She kept saying wow this topic is boring (i.e the book not the game) and yet when i lost interest and turned away she kept picking up the book again. I was trying to up the Kino but I just couldn't. For some reason I just dont have the balls to kiss this girl... I know. So I tried to up the kino which she didn't outright reject but didn't embrace it either. When I finally had my arm around her she then turned the other way from me and while still resting on my arm went to sleep i.e. totally BAD body language.

    I woke up this morning to a text saying sorry, didn't wanna wake you, thanks for last night.

    What the heck do I do with this chick?

  2. #2
    Mystery_wannabe Guest

    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by lez999 View Post
    Guys i think I've been totally blown out of the water.

    I have a friend that I have been getting a LOT closer with over the last few weeks. She broke up with a long-term boyfriend a couple of months ago and we have been upping the ante. We've been talking pretty much everyday and I have been flirting especially with sexual jokes.

    I've stayed at her place a couple of times. Her body language was good and she was pretty flirtatious with the long eye contact etc. But every time i would slightly up the level with the body contact like hold her leg with my arm or something she would somehow move. One time we were lying horizontally on the bed and she actually got to do something and then when she came back to lie in bed she went to sleep not next to me but vertically in the bed.

    Anyway, long story short, I was gonna have a dinner at mine last night, I cancelled it but I had already invited her. I asked her if she was still coming and she asked if she is still invited. I said if you want to but don't feel obliged. She said no, no I want to come etc.

    Anyway she came and we had dinner with her and my flat mate. It ended being late and she said she should go but I said I wasnt letting her go back so late and she didn't put up much of a fight. We were lying in bed and again her body language was good and we were playing a little. she took a book of mine and wanted me to test her on the topics. She kept saying wow this topic is boring (i.e the book not the game) and yet when i lost interest and turned away she kept picking up the book again. I was trying to up the Kino but I just couldn't. For some reason I just dont have the balls to kiss this girl... I know. So I tried to up the kino which she didn't outright reject but didn't embrace it either. When I finally had my arm around her she then turned the other way from me and while still resting on my arm went to sleep i.e. totally BAD body language.

    I woke up this morning to a text saying sorry, didn't wanna wake you, thanks for last night.

    What the heck do I do with this chick?

    Ok so you've got rapport, you've got comfort you've touched her so kino is done. You just needed to pull the trigger. When you've mentioned the last part about her turning away in your arms, that could've been a great chance for you to kiss close.

    You have her in your arm. You are not millimeters away, you are touching! What you could do is say "hey" and then very gently gesture her to turn around facing you. Look her in the eye and give her a lustful stare and go in slowly.

  3. #3
    Ridikulus Guest

    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    If she was already in your arms, even if she was turned away, then you could have just start nuzzling her hair or neck. I'd have probably given her a kiss on the shoulder, just one, and see her reaction. If she doesn't pull out of the embrace, then i'd give her more. I can totally, effortlessly see you guys petting at least... I hope next time you get a chance, you'll milk the situation for all it's worth.

  4. #4
    Smash Guest

    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    Lez bro...like MysteryWB said. You have everything you need here. She is comfortable around you obviously and she is showing all the signs of interest. My only red flag is that you have spent so many nights together and nothing has happened. I can't really tell you if you are being rejected or not. How is she responding to the sexual texts? If she's being sexual right back towards you, then you need to grab your nuts and just go for it bro. Worst thing that could happen is the whole "we're too good of friends" speech. Even then it's not too late man. Just go out on some dates and show another girl all of the affection you were showing your "friend". She will miss the way you two spent time together and you're in.

    This happened to me a few years ago and I did exactly what I just said. I saw other girls and boom...like that I was in with my "friend".

  5. #5
    Pinai Guest

    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    Sigh.

    I am not sure about the other scenarios but that one with the bored book could have ended in sex had you known what follow through is Still, I also feel that she also hasn't really decided yet and was actually seeking validation from you if you really want her or not, and what exactly was it that you wanted. I guess, you must be hesitating a lot and sending her confusing signals as well so she also doesn't know if you still want her playing coy (are you guys still just flirting?). I also don't think she's likely to initiate a kiss... but having already held her is almost a sure sign that she wouldn't mind you initiating one.

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    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    You have to be ready for is the potential 'friends speech' OR 'I'm not ready yet" b/c she just got out of a relationship. Don't obsess over it but know it may come. Try something along the lines of "you can't keep life on hold forever" and try to keep the mood & break through any resistance. Don't know if I like that line much but maybe someone else has something better.

    I did this EXACT same thing with a girl 10 years ago, but I slept with her for a week or 2 and din't do $hit so it was over after that. We were both on the rebound at the time which for me got in the way but I kicked myself in the ass over that one for quite a while.

  7. #7
    PUA808 Guest

    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    Sorry to necro a thread, but I think this has happened to all of us so I want to throw my 2 cents in. I think you were blowing it in that you're taking too long. She may start to wonder if you're an AFC. To get things moving, here are some ideas that might work:

    1) Build some value by not being so available for her, i.e. don't talk or text her for a day or two. If she texts or calls be real polite and say "tied up now, chat later?". Then be chivalrous and follow up on your committment several hours later. At that time, text her once. If she replies, make plans. If she does not reply. Give it another day. Don't act eager.

    2) If she does the "role over" thing next time she's in bed, try gently tickling her back and playing around the area above her a$$...and as the others have said, kiss her gently on the neck. Real light touching and very gentle tickling in these areas really builds sexual Tension. Also ask her if she wants a massage, which is a great excuse to go up under her shirt on her back and touch her. This can really escalate things quickly, especially after you massage her, you try the line: "ok, my turn for a massage" at which point you take off your shirt obliging her to massage you. I've had plenty of girls get on top of me at this point which makes it a lot easier to k-close or f-close.

    3) If you're alone, anywhere, and close face to face, and being somewhat playful...you could even try this line: "I didn't have much to eat today and i'm feeling kinda snack-ish" and then slowly put your hands on her waste and pretend to tug at her panties through her dress while giving her a sly playful smile. The buying temp has to be there, but if you guys are lying in bed looking into each other's eyes, then you can try it. If she giggles, and you're not in bed yet, gently take her hand and try to lead her to the bedroom. She may go. If you get there, definitly move in for a gentle passionate kiss first before working your way down. If she has gone with you to the bedroom, you have automatic permission for the kiss. This line DOES work. Its amazing how many conservative girls are totally ok with getting DATY. They often don't seem to consider it sex.

    4) I don't know if you guys are old enough, but a couple shots of tequila (or drink of your choice) would work wonders as well. After two or three shots, ask her if she has had the "whiskey kiss" or tequila kiss or whatever is available that has a lot of alcohol in it. Of course she hasn't, and you'll be in. You can do this privately or take her out to a club, especially if you have friends at the club for obvious reasons.
    Last edited by PUA808; 08-09-2010 at 04:18 AM.

  8. #8
    lez999 Guest

    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by PUA808 View Post
    Sorry to necro a thread, but I think this has happened to all of us so I want to throw my 2 cents in. I think you were blowing it in that you're taking too long. She may start to wonder if you're an AFC. To get things moving, here are some ideas that might work:

    1) Build some value by not being so available for her, i.e. don't talk or text her for a day or two. If she texts or calls be real polite and say "tied up now, chat later?". Then be chivalrous and follow up on your committment several hours later. At that time, text her once. If she replies, make plans. If she does not reply. Give it another day. Don't act eager.

    2) If she does the "role over" thing next time she's in bed, try gently tickling her back and playing around the area above her a$$...and as the others have said, kiss her gently on the neck. Real light touching and very gentle tickling in these areas really builds sexual Tension. Also ask her if she wants a massage, which is a great excuse to go up under her shirt on her back and touch her. This can really escalate things quickly, especially after you massage her, you try the line: "ok, my turn for a massage" at which point you take off your shirt obliging her to massage you. I've had plenty of girls get on top of me at this point which makes it a lot easier to k-close or f-close.

    3) If you're alone, anywhere, and close face to face, and being somewhat playful...you could even try this line: "I didn't have much to eat today and i'm feeling kinda snack-ish" and then slowly put your hands on her waste and pretend to tug at her panties through her dress while giving her a sly playful smile. The buying temp has to be there, but if you guys are lying in bed looking into each other's eyes, then you can try it. If she giggles, and you're not in bed yet, gently take her hand and try to lead her to the bedroom. She may go. If you get there, definitly move in for a gentle passionate kiss first before working your way down. If she has gone with you to the bedroom, you have automatic permission for the kiss. This line DOES work. Its amazing how many conservative girls are totally ok with getting DATY. They often don't seem to consider it sex.

    4) I don't know if you guys are old enough, but a couple shots of tequila (or drink of your choice) would work wonders as well. After two or three shots, ask her if she has had the "whiskey kiss" or tequila kiss or whatever is available that has a lot of alcohol in it. Of course she hasn't, and you'll be in. You can do this privately or take her out to a club, especially if you have friends at the club for obvious reasons.
    Wow, this is a blast from the past! Yeah I banged that chick already.

  9. #9
    PUA808 Guest

    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    NICE! I was hoping you'd come back and give us an update. Gratz =)

    What turned the tide for you?
    Last edited by PUA808; 08-09-2010 at 11:39 AM.

  10. #10
    lez999 Guest

    Default Re: is this a rejection or am i reading it wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by PUA808 View Post
    NICE! I was hoping you'd come back and give us an update. Gratz =)

    What turned the tide for you?
    Wow this is taking me back a bit. I think my game with her was ok I was just a pussy not making a move. Eventually I made a move and she kissed me back and that was it.

    It's funny but turning friends into lovers has become a speciality of mine. I've really become quite good at it (not wanting to brag).

    This girl was a friend for two years and then we got together. Another girl a little while later, who rejected me for years, I got with (EVEN after she told me specifically she didn't want to hook up with me. ). Another girl who rejected me when i was 16 and treated me like shit, sent me a birthday message this year telling me she wants to fuck my brains out (this was after I saw her a couple of months before and gamed the shit out of her, unfortunately I haven't seen her since with her being in NY). Another girl who rejected me badly when I was younger wants to bang me hard.

    My tactic is pretty simple. I tell them my game while gaming on them. Easy peasy.


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