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    Default Re: TheDuke’s Guide to Mixed Sets and Practical AMOGing

    Hey Duke, I got a question for you.

    One of my best friends also happens to be the worst wing I've ever encountered, not by being inactive but by being too active. He's fearless on the approach, which is great for opening sets, but when it comes to not hitting on my target hes farking brutal. No self control what so ever.

    Some interesting things I picked up:

    He loves to be the center of attention, if he's not he will intervene by interrupting, one-uping, or changing the subject completely to favor him.

    His style consists of acting like their best friend, then trying to ISO and move in for the kill (however he has troubles f-closing, for example a girl dragged him to his room on campus then left him there).

    When I asked him to not hit on my target, he agreed completely, but still did it. When he fucked it up for me and I ejected, after he went on about how bad he felt (he meant it). I think he makes excuses in his head about why it's ok to go after my target.

    I don't know to deal with him, classic AMOG techniques could turn our friendship pretty sour. I generally try to not have him around when I go for a target, however if he see's me then of course I'll have him join the group. Then he goes on to one-up all the stories and be the center of attention.

    How would you place him in your system, and how would you deal with him?

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    Good question.

    Actually, what you've described sounds exactly what my wing was like (except he closed my targets regularly).

    The best way to handle this situation is to have a conversation with him about it and point out his behaviors and mannerisms that you take issue with. If he continues to act in this way, then he's selfish and I think it's best if you find a new wing.

    The problem is that you don't want AMOG your friends and you're not typically worried about them amoging you, so you let them into your group and let your shield down. If the above suggestions aren't tenable, then here are some things you can do to put a stop to him taking your targets:

    1. Body positioning: This is by far the most important thing when trying to stop someone from AMOGing you. If they can't place themselves comfortably in the group, then they won't be able to steal your target. For instance, if your talking to a two set that's sitting on bar stools, stand beside your target and put your foot up on the other girls stool. You've now completely closed off the set. Just put yourself between your friend and your target and you'll see a huge decline in the number of girls he steals from you.
    2. Make him work his way into the group, don't openly pull him in. Obviously when he enters the group you should introduce him as your friend, but don't do much more.
    3. If he gets overly aggressive, then punish his behavior. Use negative body language, turn your back on him, call him out or whatever. Ultimately, if he's not going to cooperate with you, then you can't keep trying to cooperate with him.
    4. Finally, Isolate your target. If you remove your target from the group, then you don't have to worry about your buddy AMOGing you.

    Of all this advice, the only advice I think is really great is to ditch this friend if he doesn't make an effort to change.
    "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."

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    Default Re: TheDuke’s Guide to Mixed Sets and Practical AMOGing

    Great guide TheDuke!!!, this is by far the most comprehensive guide on amoging I ever encountered

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    Default Re: TheDuke’s Guide to Mixed Sets and Practical AMOGing

    Not only is it great guide but it has excellent support for follow up questions that pertain to the lesson
    Learn to be a better person not a better player.

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    Default Re: TheDuke’s Guide to Mixed Sets and Practical AMOGing

    My apologies Duke, it would seem that you are correct. No More Mr. Nice Guy is actually a book that I have been wanting to read. By the looks and sounds of it, I couldn't go wrong with it.

    And yes, gentlemen, the Swagman is back, and now I'm on an extremely new phase of my journey: learning how to have and maintain an excellent relationship
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Swagman, good to see you're back. I appreciate the guys like you who look at this pua stuff as a chance to improve yourself more than a chance to sleep with women.
    "It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."

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    Default Re: TheDuke’s Guide to Mixed Sets and Practical AMOGing

    Thanks.......to TheDuke man. Now i feel like i am the god Eros alpha male. Salute Duke
    Salute.......

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    I love this and the thirty characters
    Always leave her better than you found her.

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    Default Re: TheDuke’s Guide to Mixed Sets and Practical AMOGing

    When you are dealing with a guy who is nice to everyone but in a calm way - the cooperator - and "his" girl gravitates towards him - and she is the only pretty one in sight(abundance my ass) - how do you get the girl?

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    Default Re: TheDuke’s Guide to Mixed Sets and Practical AMOGing

    What do you mean by "his" girl? Are you talking about his target, his girlfriend, a girl who is following him around?

    Truthfully, this is a difficult situation because it becomes a game of PUA vs. PUA and you're making it a zero sum game. The key to being successful at pick up is seeing the forest for the trees. You should not get caught up on picking up any individual girl, but go about it with the mentality that as your skills progress, so to will your successes with women in general.

    As for dealing with a cooperator, there's no trick to this. There's no shortcut. In the end, you have to be higher value than an already high value guy. And even if you are higher value, it may be so marginal that it won't make a difference.

    You also asked how I would go about committing this stuff to memory. The key here is just to use it and test it in the field. If you really want to learn this stuff, you really need to get a grasp on how it works and why it works. Go talk to people, especially other guys. See how flattering them works out. Try to identify some of the stuff I talk about in the thread and you will eventually see everything I'm talking about. This isn't a guide full of easy to use tricks that you can just memorize. This is more of a statement of how the world works, why it works, and how you can use that to your advantage once you grasp the concepts.

    Good luck!
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