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    Question Am I Too Short?

    How important is it really? I'm only 5 foot 4, and I noticed that no matter how interesting I am, or how much social proof I have, it seems nearly impossible to get girls. At parties, I'll be all the stuff that gives someone value. For example, whenever me and my boys roll through to a party, I'm usually the one calling the shots (leader of men, and social proof). And because of my sense of humor, I draw the crowd and when I'm speaking, others listen. To put it in simple terms, I get others to invest themselves in me. But when it comes down to it, my height always seems to be the problem when trying to get with a girl.

    Most even say it blatantly, "you're too short." To which I respond by saying, "Hey, I'm big where it matters, so it's all good."

    But I still can't seem to attract them enough.

    In addition, at most parties I start off with talking to some frat brothers to get on their good side so I can be the 'man' of the party. I do this because men aren't as shallow as to the appearance of another male that they are talking to, and I can use them later on to help me gain value.

    However, if I ask a girl to come dance, it's always the same response, "you're small." Some try to act nice and say "I already danced," but it's obvious what they are thinking.

    Any ideas? I really can't think of a solution to my height problem. Let me know if you have any solutions.

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    Default Re: Am I Too Short?

    I'm also a short guy bro about 5'5 compared to my friends that I usually hang out. They are 5'7, 5'8 tall. Sometimes it's frustrating to know that most of the girls that we target for picking up tend to get more attracted to taller guys. Yes, it is true that they are more into taller guys, but some girls don't and they don't have any preferences with regard to height. Just keep your game cool and work on some areas in order for you to be more attractive to girls.

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    The thing with short guys is that it doesnt tick off that "he can protect me" switch. So you gotta find a way to get that going. I know a guy who is 5'5 that gets more pussy than anyone I know. He is former military war vet and a competitive Brazilian jiu jitsu guy. You can feel his presence from the other room he is so alpha.

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    I think height issues can get into our way when picking up with women. I don't have any problems on this matter but I have some friends who are facing some difficulties in picking up women because of their height. However, there are some who are lucky enough to pick up gorgeous girls in spite of their short heights.

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    Default Re: Am I Too Short?

    I am really short and skinny so I have the same problem. I am way more alpha than every one else in the room, and I still have to pull all the stops to have women notice me much of the time. I have found that I just have to initiate much more of the time. Once you start the conversation, your height doesn't really matter as long as you got the alpha thing working for you.

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    Default Re: Am I Too Short?

    Being short can really make us guys insecure, especially when meeting up with gorgeous girls taller then us. There's nothing we can do about that. We should compensate it by trying to be effective in communication. I know girls love men who knows how to communicate well.

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    I can say that being short has a certain disadvantage when picking up with girls. For them, a tall guy is something sexy and dominant. Most girls loves that type of guy. However, there are some girls who dig shorter guys because of their great sense of humor and a great companion.

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    Being short is not the end of the game. It may be a minus point against you in picking up women. But hey, who says success in picking up women is in the height? I'm sure a few PUA experts here have something to say when you are challenged because of being short.

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    Default Re: Am I Too Short?

    I have friends who are a much shorter than me who are really really really good with women. Height is going to get you through the first 30 seconds of meeting someone, but after that it is all about your personality.

    Plenty of short guys are GREAT with women, and plenty of tall guys are horrible with women.

    It will only effect your game if you allow your frame to see it as a negative, cause then it will impact your body language, confidence and other sub-communication aspects.

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    Default Re: Am I Too Short?

    A lot of women SAY they want a guy such and such tall. Because she is clued in on that feeling of physical protection.

    But the reality is this:

    1) She will be triggered faster to attraction with height.

    2) You can trigger attraction with her if you aren't tall. You just need to learn the strategies we teach - which guys need anyway!

    3) This is a BIG sticking point for guys in their inner game. Height is (ironically) biggest in your mind.

    Consider all the guys in hollywood that are dinky short...
    Tom Cruise: 5'7" (maybe less...)
    Dustin HOffman: 5'4"
    Al Pacino: 5'7" (probably less...)

    Yeah, you can argue that being a movie star is a bigger factor, but these guys are pretty Alpha in their own right.

    Ask yourself this question: Do I get more perverse self-satisfaction for using height as an excuse to not hone my pickup skills?

    After all, it's like looking for the flaw in any woman. Look hard enough and you WILL find it.

    Is it just an easy way to dismiss yourself?

    Or are you going to knuckle up and get your shit together and stop letting other people's reality dictate your own?

    ???
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