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    Dandy Guest

    Default Some advice on nightgame.

    I dont know how loud music are in night clubs wherever the rest of you all live, but here in Norway its usually so loud you need to scream at the top of your lungs to get a word through unless youre bending in to shout in someones ear, which can often be a sticking point trying to pick someone up since you either get misinterpretet or need to repeat for a few times, and that kinda kills the moment for me and most likely the girl.
    But then again, maybe im using the loud music as a crutch because I am still to fresh out of the box to be overly confident just walking up to a chick and serving her an opener.

    Which kinda brings me to the second topic, cold approach on a set out.

    Over here, if you just sit down with a group of people you dont know its kinda considered rude and you will come off as a weirdo, even if you have a great opener.. Norwegians are a closed off people in my experience.
    But then again, maybe I just need to not give a shit what they say about me and keep opening sets.

    Keep in mind, Norway is a small country. 4,5 million ppl in total or something like that, and the town I live in has about 160.000 people in it, whereas most of them are either below 20 or above 30.

    Any one else in the same situation as me and able to give some advice ? Or even better, a motivational "Stop beeing and AFC and get out there".

    - Dandy

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    Dandy Guest

    Default Re: Some advice on nightgame.

    Was talking to Bill on the chat (Start using it people ! ) and he mentioned I should put this in there to give some background history I suppose. So here it goes.

    Basically I have 2 sticking points, first beeing my Approach Anxiety and I keep
    telling myself that since Norway is so small I cant "afford" making a fool out of myself.
    Which is why I want to know if anyone else comes from a small town.

    My second sticking point is that I am not alpha enough in the sense that I have difficulties keeping the energy up in a conversation, which is especially hard in clubs where you have to scream at eachother.

    But seeing these problems there seems to be one solution, approach people and learn to talk, learn to keep the conversation going and hence get better at it to thus destroy the second sticking point.

    Opinions ?

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    Default Re: Some advice on nightgame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dandy View Post
    I dont know how loud music are in night clubs wherever the rest of you all live, but here in Norway its usually so loud you need to scream at the top of your lungs to get a word through unless youre bending in to shout in someones ear, which can often be a sticking point trying to pick someone up since you either get misinterpretet or need to repeat for a few times, and that kinda kills the moment for me and most likely the girl.
    But then again, maybe im using the loud music as a crutch because I am still to fresh out of the box to be overly confident just walking up to a chick and serving her an opener.

    Which kinda brings me to the second topic, cold approach on a set out.

    Over here, if you just sit down with a group of people you dont know its kinda considered rude and you will come off as a weirdo, even if you have a great opener.. Norwegians are a closed off people in my experience.
    But then again, maybe I just need to not give a Sh1t what they say about me and keep opening sets.

    Keep in mind, Norway is a small country. 4,5 million ppl in total or something like that, and the town I live in has about 160.000 people in it, whereas most of them are either below 20 or above 30.

    Any one else in the same situation as me and able to give some advice ? Or even better, a motivational "Stop beeing and AFC and get out there".

    Was talking to Bill on the chat (Start using it people ! ) and he mentioned I should put this in there to give some background history I suppose. So here it goes.

    Basically I have 2 sticking points, first beeing my Approach Anxiety and I keep
    telling myself that since Norway is so small I cant "afford" making a fool out of myself.
    Which is why I want to know if anyone else comes from a small town.

    My second sticking point is that I am not alpha enough in the sense that I have difficulties keeping the energy up in a conversation, which is especially hard in clubs where you have to scream at eachother.

    But seeing these problems there seems to be one solution, approach people and learn to talk, learn to keep the conversation going and hence get better at it to thus destroy the second sticking point.


    - Dandy
    Dandy - great chatting with you earlier. As promised here is my response.

    1. First off, you need to immediately stop worrying what other people think about you. WHO CARES. Seriously. All the GREAT pick up artists I know could give two sh1ts what other people think of them. It doesn't matter.. in fact the better you get with women, some guys (and girls) will resent you and try to salt your game. That is when you know you are getting good with guys/girls purposely talk shit about you. I had this gal doing this for a while, she would try to sabotage my pickups. Found out later cause she was jealous I was nailing all her friends but not her, so she kept telling girls I was bad news or whatever (still hooked up with her friends anyways, as my game is tight).

    2. Club game is tough. In a loud environment, you need to use many non-verbal communication methods (smiles, etc) to generate attraction since you won't be able to 'chat' normally. Warm openers work best (where you have made flirty 'i know you' type eye contact with them before approaching them). Gambler has some killer ideas about this in his "Stealth Attraction" product - not sure it is still available.

    3. Loud clubs are not the only place to meet women. Work on your day game. As counter-intuitive as it sounds, when I started mastering day game, my night game became unstoppable.

    4. Learn a few 'conversational' routines. the cube, the questions game (credit Nick Sparks), hoop questions (credit Christian Hudson).

    5. Peacock a little more.. in these environments you need to stand out. Don't be a fool, but don't be afraid to wear one or two things that you normally wouldn't wear (a cool hat, etc).

    Regarding approach anxiety... bombing openers work best. I will give some examples once we produce the replay of my teleconference with Nick Sparks.


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