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Thread: 2 Sticking Points!

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    Default 2 Sticking Points!

    I'm have a reoccurring issue with my conversations stagnating after I open up a set. Essentially I'm getting my introduction is but I can't quite break the ice. During the day time I tell girls I go direct and tell the girls that I thought they were cute so I came by to say hi, where as at night I'll just say hey how's your night going. In both instances, I just can't get past their initial response. And my conversation just dies out.

    I'm also having issues with loud venues that aren't really open. More of the clubs, where as bars are much easier. Especially when the girls are on the dance floor, I don't know how to approach other than the usual go up grab the girl and start grinding on her(which doesn't allow me to utilize any game but rather looks only.) There has to be some techniques out there for this type of environment.

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    Default Re: 2 Sticking Points!

    Don't go direct if you're new to game. Indirect is a better approach because it creates a conversation right from the beginning. As you learn to control interactions and move from thread to thread direct is much easier, but as you're just starting out stick to things like situational and opinion openers. Once you've got past the hook point you can be a bit more direct.
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    Default Re: 2 Sticking Points!

    Quote Originally Posted by espmma View Post
    I'm have a reoccurring issue with my conversations stagnating after I open up a set. Essentially I'm getting my introduction is but I can't quite break the ice. During the day time I tell girls I go direct and tell the girls that I thought they were cute so I came by to say hi, where as at night I'll just say hey how's your night going. In both instances, I just can't get past their initial response. And my conversation just dies out.

    I'm also having issues with loud venues that aren't really open. More of the clubs, where as bars are much easier. Especially when the girls are on the dance floor, I don't know how to approach other than the usual go up grab the girl and start grinding on her(which doesn't allow me to utilize any game but rather looks only.) There has to be some techniques out there for this type of environment.
    Awesome questions you have there.

    What have you tried to do after you open? what types of questions do you ask after? What I do is ask a very generic open ended question that makes the girl respond.

    The next step is breaking rapport to what ever comes out of her mouth. Than quickly follow that up with a question right after there done laughing.

    As for loud clubs well you just have to talk in a deeper voice and stand closer to the girl.
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    Default Re: 2 Sticking Points!

    I've tried to bring up a situation based comment or question based on her outfit or their environment. But, these can come out bland at times. Once I get past this opening sequence I have pretty solid mid game and can carry a good conversation. I just can't get to it at times if the conversation just becomes stale if I can't think of the best situation based second comment or question. What are some examples of some general open ended questions that you use?

    I'm also still experimenting with breaking rapport, it's such a fine line, haha.

    Looking forward to your advice. Thanks man!

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    Default Re: 2 Sticking Points!

    Yeah, I tried going with the clothing comments for a while. Usually they end up saying thank you and that's it.

    Start asking for girl's opinions on shit. Say something like, "Yeah, that really is a nice shirt. Hey, while I'm over here, lemme get your opinion. I spent FIVE FREAKING HOURS at work today on wikipedia. Yeah, I know, right? I was learning about animals! What's your favorite animal? HORSES??? Why??"

    Blah blah blah you can talk for hours after that.

    And yes, I did actually spend 5 hours on wikipedia at work today hahahaha

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    Default Re: 2 Sticking Points!

    I'm also having issues with loud venues that aren't really open. More of the clubs, where as bars are much easier. Especially when the girls are on the dance floor, I don't know how to approach other than the usual go up grab the girl and start grinding on her(which doesn't allow me to utilize any game but rather looks only.) There has to be some techniques out there for this type of environment.[/QUOTE]

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