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    Default Re: fack another failed kiss close

    So in no way shape or form would I call myself a master PUA. However, I've never been been denied a kiss close with this formula. I'm sure you've all read it and maybe someone else even mentioned it in this thread. Just make sure she is comfortable with your Kino (I work in medicine so lucky for me, I no longer have any hesitation in touching peoples bodies) Just make it natural, do it while making a point in a fun, light hearted way. Then keep it up but throw a wink in there from time to time right as you touch her on the thigh. If she is still into you and looking into your eyes, just look at her lips, linger for a sec as if your imaging yourself kissing her, then look back directly in her eyes. If she mirrors you and looks at your lips, you're in. Go for the kiss right away. You can even do this two or three times if your still hesitant. If she mirrors you once, she'll do it every time because she want's to kiss you as much as you want to kiss her.

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    Default Re: fack another failed kiss close

    Quote Originally Posted by grooven70 View Post
    So in no way shape or form would I call myself a master PUA. However, I've never been been denied a kiss close with this formula. I'm sure you've all read it and maybe someone else even mentioned it in this thread. Just make sure she is comfortable with your Kino (I work in medicine so lucky for me, I no longer have any hesitation in touching peoples bodies) Just make it natural, do it while making a point in a fun, light hearted way. Then keep it up but throw a wink in there from time to time right as you touch her on the thigh. If she is still into you and looking into your eyes, just look at her lips, linger for a sec as if your imaging yourself kissing her, then look back directly in her eyes. If she mirrors you and looks at your lips, you're in. Go for the kiss right away. You can even do this two or three times if your still hesitant. If she mirrors you once, she'll do it every time because she want's to kiss you as much as you want to kiss her.
    My first kiss on a girl is almost never on her lips. I usually kiss the cheek or even the neck for a few times before moving to the lips. Escalating the kisses in this manner seems to work well, just like escalating kino.

    My usual tactic is during the date once I've escalated Kino as far as it can go short of actual F-closing kino.. I get behind them and put my arms around their waist a minute, whisper some sexy sh1t in their ear, move the hair out of the way and kiss the neck and work my way up. They almost always melt. After that you can turn them around and move for the lips.

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    What's up Silicon Magician! Just assuming from your name that you live in the bay as well. I like your tactics and bet that works in a "stand up" atmosphere like a club. Actually, I've had the best success using that arms around waist, neck method on girls that I haven't really talked to but danced with. I'd be a little hesitant kissing a girls cheek before her lips if we were actually on a date though. At that point, she knows you want to kiss her lips and in my opinion, may come across as a little beta. Now if you can get her to kiss your cheek first, that's a whole other story. If you do enough Kino while talking and she's receptive, she wants you to kiss her lips. I think that's actually a step below kissing her neck if you're trying to get to know her. Now if you're just going for animalistic passion and f-close a girl you just met, there's nothing better than making her feel like a gazelle being taken down by a cheetah with the neck kiss first as it shows dominance. If she is receptive to that, of course she will be receptive to being turned around and kissed on the lips as it gives her a little more power (Until you gently put your hand on her throat and make her feel a little helpless again Just my two cents.

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    Default Re: fack another failed kiss close

    Quote Originally Posted by grooven70 View Post
    What's up Silicon Magician! Just assuming from your name that you live in the bay as well. I like your tactics and bet that works in a "stand up" atmosphere like a club. Actually, I've had the best success using that arms around waist, neck method on girls that I haven't really talked to but danced with. I'd be a little hesitant kissing a girls cheek before her lips if we were actually on a date though. At that point, she knows you want to kiss her lips and in my opinion, may come across as a little beta. Now if you can get her to kiss your cheek first, that's a whole other story. If you do enough Kino while talking and she's receptive, she wants you to kiss her lips. I think that's actually a step below kissing her neck if you're trying to get to know her. Now if you're just going for animalistic passion and f-close a girl you just met, there's nothing better than making her feel like a gazelle being taken down by a cheetah with the neck kiss first as it shows dominance. If she is receptive to that, of course she will be receptive to being turned around and kissed on the lips as it gives her a little more power (Until you gently put your hand on her throat and make her feel a little helpless again Just my two cents.
    Your two cents are golden! It is quite obvious that context has much to do which tactic we will use. This girl I was with last night absolutely didn't like kissing. We went through the entire seduction through the F-close without a single kiss on the lips involving more than a peck. Certainly no tongue. But the date before that on Tuesday I kiss closed the girl in the parking lot by shoving her up against her car and just laying it on her. She shivered and melted right then and there. I practically had to hold her up as her legs gave out from beneath her. LMAO I so love dominant alpha body language. It says so much more than words ever could.

    I guess the moral is, as long as your lips are on her somewhere!

    Actually I'm in the Midwest in Southern Ohio near Cincinnati. A church on every corner and a ho in every pew! LOL

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    Default Re: fack another failed kiss close

    This sounds more like a Mindset issue than a technique issue. And the mindset you want is that you are the prize. You don't want to kiss her, but she wants to kiss you. And YOU aren't sure if you will let her. Do not verbalize this since this is simply a mindset. But your behavior should filter through this mindset and you will realize the kiss is not a big deal.

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    Default Re: fack another failed kiss close

    BP has got it right and if you really want to get good at a kiss close lower your standards to girls that are aching for it. Two things happen:
    1) You can read the signs and be better informed when you do get the green light.
    2) It will loose a little of that nervous edge because you've done it.

    If that doesn't help just think about the kiss not being a mile stone achievement but just something to pass the time. I kiss most of my female friends.

    Hope it helps
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    I empathise so much with this; it took me ages to get over this as a sticking point, and while I am now much improved, it can still rear its ugly head.

    The best, smoothest and most charming move for a kiss close I have ever seen is actually from Woody Allen. I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already in the thread as I can't quite bring myself to wade through ten pages of replies in one sitting, but it is in 'Annie Hall.' It only works if you are on an actual date with a girl, and haven't just picked her up.

    At the beginning of the date, Woody stops Diane Keaton as they are both walking in the street, and says 'Gimme a kiss.' She responds all confused and a little alarmed: 'Really?' Woody follows up with:

    'And-and uh, there's gonna be all that Tension. You know, we never kissed before and I'll never know when to make the right move or anything. So we'll kiss now we'll get it over with and then we'll go eat. Okay? Then we can digest our food better.'

    They kiss.

    'OK, now we can digest our food.'

    I've used this several times with great success.

    Woody Allen: Master PUA.

    Most embarrassing kiss close ever for me was when I lost my bottle when I had already started it. I had the girl (gorgeous Spanish TV journalist) in a clinch and was actually *biting her neck* with her very compliant, when I froze up, backed off, and said 'So, uh, yep, gotta go now. Call you, see ya' And walked off! Leaving her standing there wondering if perhaps I was just a little retarded or actually completely mental.

    Bottom line son, kiss those girls - they love getting a kiss. For them it's the ultimate compliment. Even if they have no intention of going further with you, they love the validation of the kiss. So you needn't worry about being offensive. Being boring is offensive, not kissing. If you find your interaction is a bit dull at any point, let that be your motivation to kiss her. The ultimate crime is being boring, kissing saves you from this.

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    Default Re: fack another failed kiss close

    look man have you ever read neil strauss's rules of the game? use the mystery k-close he mentions toward the begining of the book. ask her if she would like to kiss u when ur realy close to her. their are only three answeres she can give you. if she says yes kiss her as soon as she does, if she says maybe say then lets find out and move in for the kiss, or if she says no tell her you didn't say she could you just had a feeling she wanted to. if it doesn't work out for you just move on and find another HB to love

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    Default Re: fack another failed kiss close

    Early on I would get nervous going in for a kiss but I can't remember a time I got denied. If she has been hanging around you, giving Kino back, gave you her number, then you think she did all that to NOT be kissed?? I like the idea behind the mystery k-close since you have an escape valve but I don't believe in having that fear. If she has showed interest go in and just do it. It shows power and dominance. Most women usually lose control at that point. Plus, she will NEVER initiate it. You always will have to so get used to it.

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    Default Re: fack another failed kiss close

    often guys put too much meaning behind kissing - which puts a lot of pressure on... it reminds me of the 3 second rule. if ur not approaching within 3s, then ur mind is already messing with u not to approach (aa).

    if u r not up to par to kissing, then stop thinking abt it... u will kiss naturally when u know it'll work.

    i think it was Neil Strauss himself who took months before he could K-close.?? can anyone correct me on this.?

    GL.^^


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