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Thread: I can not for the life of me get in the friend zone

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    Default I can not for the life of me get in the friend zone

    This sounds backwards, but I need practice getting into the friend zone.

    I've tried picking up a lot here in university during the day, and I have slim to no luck.

    The problem I have pin pointed is I have trouble creating conversation that purely friendly. After every new girl I talk to, I always here back from friends or in some way or another that she said I was hitting on her, which for half of the time wasn't the case. Even when I'm just trying to be a genuinely nice person, she always seems to think I'm hitting on her. Even my friends bust my balls about how I always seem hit on every single girl, even though I don't mean to come across that way.

    Any suggestions, even the most basic and obvious, are appreciated.

    My goal is to be able to get friend zoned by 5 girls, which later I will turn into whatever I want them to be.

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    Default Re: I can not for the life of me get in the friend zone

    Lol, never thought I'd have to post this here.

    Tips to get into the friend zone: Avoid any sexual talk, act needy, constantly ask to hang out, text all the time, no Kino, make the conversations JUST purely friendly (even if you say you've been doing this, do it even more) etc. Have I missed anything?
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    Default Re: I can not for the life of me get in the friend zone

    Dude maybe your being too strong but you don't want to be in the friend zone. Ever.

    Maybe your acting cocky funny or being aggressive for too long. Check out articles by Mystery about comfort. If you mixed in comfort u should be ok. Also, maybe you aren't trying to disqualify the girls. Totally make fun of them in one way or another.

    And her friends saying stuff is a sh!t test. If her friends say anything like you were hitting on her tell them she wishes. Also tell the friend who said it "why do you bring it up? Are u jealous?"

    A women would bot have her friend tell you anything about what she said unless she was thinking of you or liked you. Disqualify her to the friend but don't bring it (the fact that you know what she said) up ever again to the girl or the friend.


    AND BIG BTW ... did u ask the friend what the girl thinks of you??? Big time AFC NO NO. Do not try to get too much info from her friend. The friend picks up on that and will tell the girl you were asking or try to cock block.
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    Default Re: I can not for the life of me get in the friend zone

    You are overthinking this thing dawg. First off you NEVER EVER want to be IN the friendzone and girls put you there when they reject you not yourself. The goal is to be IN her radar as potential mates. But I understand your reasoning of befriending a girl IE friendzone to work your magic on her but this reverse physchology won't work on them. For starters you want to work your magic on them and I understand this is scary at first but no guts no glory and if you play it safe the rest of your life with women you will be sterile.

    Women respond to bravado, desperado, hopeless romantic, heartless, alpha male, bad boy role plays but they don't respond to nice guy, beta male, butlers, male girlfriends role plays at least not very well. Everytime I tried the nice guy card I got shafted however when I took a risk on a stunner I got major cool points from them. Nice Guy does work but only through select periods and if your permenant frame is nice guy you will never challenge her, test her, stand up to her, flirt with her, you will always be flirting when she is flirting but never going the extra mile to find out what's underneath the emotional exterior. At least from what I can tell when we learn to let go and act desperado not desperate (a attractive form of non-neediness but pretending to be needy). When you are actually needy I have noticed girls shut you down everytime but when you go Alpha they go nuts and the "pretending to be needy" works like a charm. So work your magic and go all out. But girls mostly only respond to brave and risky role playing not some weak sauce game. But remember Alpha don't overdo it always use Nice Guy as your default frame but then remember to break the Bad Boy card, Desperado gambit, Bravado moments, etc this is what causes serendipity by being your default self (nice guy) then switching frames when appropriate when you encounter resistance or she is just not feeling you. These switches or "flipping the script" makes all the girls go crazy.
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    Default Re: I can not for the life of me get in the friend zone

    Thank you for the replies!

    A few points to clarify, I'm not asking how to be Beta, needy, insecure. I'm asking how to befriend a woman from meeting her, even if she is quite a attractive. I need to have some woman friends, wings, pivots, whatever you want to call them.

    As you were saying Noctis, default nice guy then switching frames is a great strategy, it changes things up and make you interesting. However, my default frame is confident/ slightly cocky/ flirty and I don't know how to be a nice guy. One of the hardest things for me to do is pay a girl a sincere compliment; I've just never done it to anybody.

    I'm not looking to break my frame as Alpha, im looking to improve the other parts of myself that need work. Cheers!

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    Default Re: I can not for the life of me get in the friend zone

    All you need to do is not escalate. They will eventually get the hint. It's the best option possible because she will continue to hang out with you and then you gain preselection points if she continues to hang out with you.

    The more comfort and connection you build without escalation, the more in the friendzone you will be.
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    Default Re: I can not for the life of me get in the friend zone

    I understand what you're trying to do but if you're actually trying to get laid this way your doing it the long long way that fails 90% of the time unless your game is super tight. & if it is that tight why would you take the long way into messing around with these girls? Not worth it.
    If you want to genuinely be just friends with girls to use as pivots, just qualify them (Red barons guide is perfect), build intense rapport on whatever they like, & tell them that they're really cool and that you'd love to make them your new best friend. It's really that simple. Then don't ever Kino escalate with them.
    If she's a little hesitant or won't act like your friend it's because you didn't build enough value before you told her you 2 were gonna be best friends.
    (In my experience this only happens if the girl is HB8.5 or higher) so tell some dhv stories, be confident, neg her and just act like best friends. Eventually she'll come around and if she doesn't then who cares. Repeat this process with a new girl till your social proof is through the roof.


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