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    Default Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    So I just was thinking lately how we are pretty hard on ourselves on approaching randoms. That girl in the Mall, store, gym, hair salon, work, etc. I have felt bad for not approaching these randoms when carrying about business as usual and kicked myself for not approaching. But recently I have been thinking this is unwise. I almost thought about making an approach in the bookstore but some guy/employee was watching me like a hawk. He probably thought I was sketchy and I was as I almost talked to a couple of girls. But I backed out and I think that will be the straw broke the camel's back. And here's why.

    I think approaching randoms at work, the gym, store, mall, causes a lot of unwanted attention. Almost like I am soliciting myself. The reason being these environments are unnatural for PUA game. Not only does it make me into a sketchy person but that element of being a sketchy person freaks a lot of people out. It is not normal to ask for a girl's number at work so I no longer date people I work with. If I asked for a girl's number at that bookstore not only would that guy have said something to lower my value but the girl probably would have been creeped the fark out. So I have a new method for the madness. It is called "sarging only" which means no Indoor Malls or Bookstores. My new hard sarging only method is perfect. Not only do women welcome my approach at Outdoor Malls, Bars, Clubs, Water Parks, Holiday Events, etc they EXPECT it.

    They come to expect it but there is a certain element of serendipity where they think what you are doing is spur of the moment and not calculated. If only they knew. Essentially I don't think they know we are sarging and plowing. I have noticed my best nights were when I was doing some sarges not some random one offs. Being a person who strongly believes in only doing what works I will switch off from being stuck on these randoms and stick to hard sarging. Hard sarging is extremely effective. To the point I meet so many women in such short periods I don't need to rely on randoms when I have no emotional state to hook the target. So with that said retiring random approaching and sticking to sarging. By the way I just got invited to the Club next weekend and some Models might be there so I might do some sarging next weekend since I know Summer is "the big thing" but it never hurts to try, the grass is always greener on the other side. And who knows where my confidence will be next year. So yeah just saying next weekend might have some potential talent not sure. But either way I am stuck on Summer and in no way plan on making a habit of winter sarging.

    Also there is a saying "dance like no one is watching" which was the old school vibe. Now though people point out "everybody is watching and you are just a dancing monkey". Now I think we have the same attitude here when it comes to approaching randoms "approach like no one is watching". But everyone is watching and people get kicked out of Malls and I don't doubt major repercussions would have came had I approached that bookstore shopper by waiting at the door. Would have caused a lot of havoc as waiting outside would be stalking, waiting inside would have been loitering, and hitting on her in line would be harassment I think it is plain to see randoms are done for me, they can live in boredom without me I don't care. Let them be bored to hell. I am not about to get in trouble for being a overly eager creeper. Like major creeper status approaching randoms. I can't confine myself to such small limitations so back to sarging, the real way to play this game!
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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    One thing I noticed about you bro is that you think waaayy to much. You're in the wrong state of mind if you actually give a shit at what some random ass dude thinks, or some random ass girl, or anyone at all. If people are watching great, if not, even better.

    You're not thinking like someone who has social freedom, you're thinking like the average person. "I would go talk to this girl, but isn't it harassment if I say something so I dont know her?" The answer to that is no. These are what are known as excuses, and all you did within the confines of your post was come up with beta excuses to help you sleep at night.

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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    Yeah, don't overthink it. All those place you listed are perfect for game. Just need to use more tact in certain places. Being afraid of "Being found out" is so weird. What are you goign to be found out about?? That you like chicks? Nothing wrong with that!! Tear it up!!
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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    Quote Originally Posted by lilsting View Post
    One thing I noticed about you bro is that you think waaayy to much. You're in the wrong state of mind if you actually give a shit at what some random ass dude thinks, or some random ass girl, or anyone at all. If people are watching great, if not, even better.

    You're not thinking like someone who has social freedom, you're thinking like the average person. "I would go talk to this girl, but isn't it harassment if I say something so I dont know her?" The answer to that is no. These are what are known as excuses, and all you did within the confines of your post was come up with beta excuses to help you sleep at night.

    Shall we test that theory? Here's the harassment laws of my state.

    Harassment











    A person commits harassment if they do any of the following with the intent to annoy or alarm another person:
    • strikes, hits, kicks, shoves, or touches a person or subjects him/her to physical contact
    • uses obscene language or makes an obscene gesture to or at someone in a public place
    • follows a person in or around a public place
    Harassment can also take place over the phone if the caller initiates contact with the person in a way intended to threaten bodily injury or property damage, or if any obscene comment, request, suggestion, or proposal is made. If the telephone is caused to ring repeatedly without the intent of conversation, or if calls are made at inconvenient hours to invade the privacy of the home, then harassment has also occurred. Harassment is a class 3 misdemeanor.

    Harassment can also be the result of stalking, if a person threatens another and in connection with this threat follows the person or a member of his/her family, or if a person threatens another and then repeatedly attempts to communicate with that person or a member of the person's family in connection with the threat. Harassment by stalking is a class 6 felony the first time it happens, and becomes a class 5 felony if repeated.


    Clearly I am not overthinking just given the circumstances sometimes it is against the law to approach at times and in certain situations and that is all I was trying to point out. Just pointing out there is times and places it is okay to approach within the right context. Again as I said no stores, malls, hair salons, bookstores, etc as there is an extremely fine line to no line of harassment in these places. sarging even in Water Parks I will be extremely careful not to draw attention to myself and commit harassment. People wonder why the security guards at Malls threaten to arrest them and they think it is illegal when they are just uneducated about the laws of harassment protecting people. This is why they should be arrested at malls and many times given a slap on the wrist.

    I think it is important to be a good civilian while playing the game ie gaming women at again Water Parks, Amusement Parks, Bars, Clubs, Beer Festivals, Music Events, Holiday Events, Pool Parties where approaching would be more appropriate. Also buying my season pass for the Water Park and Amusement Park for the Holiday Sale going on now for next year! Not saying I WILL NEVER approach another random but very very rarely if at all and if extremely warranted as in ioi's, open body language, staring, checking me out, smiling, etc then the contact would be mutual and therefore lawful but cold approaching and sarging (warm approaches and sarging in social settings are different) is unlawful/harassment at times.
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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisCaelumPUA View Post
    Shall we test that theory? Here's the harassment laws of my state.

    Harassment











    A person commits harassment if they do any of the following with the intent to annoy or alarm another person:
    • strikes, hits, kicks, shoves, or touches a person or subjects him/her to physical contact
    • uses obscene language or makes an obscene gesture to or at someone in a public place
    • follows a person in or around a public place
    Harassment can also take place over the phone if the caller initiates contact with the person in a way intended to threaten bodily injury or property damage, or if any obscene comment, request, suggestion, or proposal is made. If the telephone is caused to ring repeatedly without the intent of conversation, or if calls are made at inconvenient hours to invade the privacy of the home, then harassment has also occurred. Harassment is a class 3 misdemeanor.

    Harassment can also be the result of stalking, if a person threatens another and in connection with this threat follows the person or a member of his/her family, or if a person threatens another and then repeatedly attempts to communicate with that person or a member of the person's family in connection with the threat. Harassment by stalking is a class 6 felony the first time it happens, and becomes a class 5 felony if repeated.


    Clearly I am not overthinking just given the circumstances sometimes it is against the law to approach at times and in certain situations and that is all I was trying to point out. Just pointing out there is times and places it is okay to approach within the right context. Again as I said no stores, malls, hair salons, bookstores, etc as there is an extremely fine line to no line of harassment in these places. sarging even in Water Parks I will be extremely careful not to draw attention to myself and commit harassment. People wonder why the security guards at Malls threaten to arrest them and they think it is illegal when they are just uneducated about the laws of harassment protecting people. This is why they should be arrested at malls and many times given a slap on the wrist.

    I think it is important to be a good civilian while playing the game ie gaming women at again Water Parks, Amusement Parks, Bars, Clubs, Beer Festivals, Music Events, Holiday Events, Pool Parties where approaching would be more appropriate. Also buying my season pass for the Water Park and Amusement Park for the Holiday Sale going on now for next year! Not saying I WILL NEVER approach another random but very very rarely if at all and if extremely warranted as in ioi's, open body language, staring, checking me out, smiling, etc then the contact would be mutual and therefore lawful but cold approaching and sarging (warm approaches and sarging in social settings are different) is unlawful/harassment at times.
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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    Sorry bud but I agree with the above replies you've gotten. Nowhere in the world is simply talking to someone considered harassment, and following around/and or stalking someone is no way to approach a girl, as we all know.

    How is sarging in the winter different than in the summer? You seem kind of delusional in my opinion.

    Good luck.

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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    I have approached at least a couple thousand girls. I still have yet to be arrested for harrassment. And I've been a dick to a mast majority of them.
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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    Well it's my life so I guess I will live however I want to. So let's see what happens next year when I put my hard sarging to the test?? And Rooster did you hear about the PUA debacle at Eaton Centre Mall? Perfect example of what I am saying not to do. Anytime schmucks get busted at a Indoor Mall for "simply talking to chicks" the Indoor Mall had to issue a concern of personal safety to the ladies via Twitter I think my point is still very valid. Don't be that guy.
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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    If you don't want to approach fine, but don't hide behind the law. You are putting women on a pedastal. Would you still be afraid if you replaced that woman with an old man? Would it be stalking then? Didn't think so. If you see a woman and you go over to her and say hello that is not harassment. Now if she says get away from me you creep, and you stick around that's a different story. You ever walk the streets of new York with random people trying to sell you shit? They are very irritating, but they are not harassing you unless they continue against your will. If you're following a woman around before you make the approach, you are not practicing the right way. Practice approaching instantaneously

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    Default Re: Why I will no longer do randoms but hard sarging only

    Quote Originally Posted by lilsting View Post
    If you don't want to approach fine, but don't hide behind the law. You are putting women on a pedastal. Would you still be afraid if you replaced that woman with an old man? Would it be stalking then? Didn't think so. If you see a woman and you go over to her and say hello that is not harassment. Now if she says get away from me you creep, and you stick around that's a different story. You ever walk the streets of new York with random people trying to sell you shit? They are very irritating, but they are not harassing you unless they continue against your will. If you're following a woman around before you make the approach, you are not practicing the right way. Practice approaching instantaneously

    I know what we're saying may sound harsh, but it's the truth. Go and watch some prank videos on YouTube and witness just how much people are able to get away with while trolling the public.

    Well I can't approach every girl I like I simply cannot. There is too much uncertainty. I don't want to be an antagonizer. I have gotten into huge trouble gaming girls at Church and the Indoor Malls and how it makes them very uncomfortable and wah wah wah (why I highly dislike those venues and may never approach there again). So I just don't think there is a way over this hurdle. However I did successfully hit on a shopper the other day but only because I made a light comment and she approached me after the comment. So yes it can work but I think going out sarging in stores is extremely tacky.
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