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    Default I suck at club game

    Hey bros.

    Happy New Year.

    So, I suck at club game.

    When it comes to social/day time interactions it’s pretty smooth.

    Theres no pressure and its very natural to me.

    But at a club there is so much pressure to “perform” or “game” it seems to take the fun out of it. I can’t hear what they’re saying, they can’t hear what I’m saying, and it all seems so fake and forced and idk, it’s weird. I love top 40 music, drinkink and loud speakers so I enjoy clubs for that, but as far as meeting girls to hook up Idk, it just doesn’t work.

    My philosophy is that going out to just have fun with the bros is the best way to do it, because I’m there just enjoying myself with the bros. Unfortunately, they have the same problem as I do. They’re great at social/day game, but not good at nightclub cold approach.
    And then I have friends that are into the pua scene, and they are gamey and can sarge, but they don’t know how to just have fun and enjoy themselves so theyre constantly walking around the venue looking for new girls to approach and after a while it seems creepy and awkward.

    I also don’t understand why girls will smile at me or check me out and then when I go dance or talk to them they act like they weren’t smiling or checking me out etc. ~~ This isn't always the case, but sometimes i do get fake "iois"

    How do I keep that conversation going? Or start it stronger? My opener ranges from anything from youre sexy whats your name, to hey, I like your dog, to something observational, what does that first three minutes sound like? I know there isn’t a template say this do that, but can you give me a general idea.

    For example, there was this girl last night. She came with a huge group of friends. I saw her early in the night and saw her checking me out, but I lost her in the dance floor, but damn, she could dance. didn’t really see her until much later in the night when I saw her checking me out again. But she was like, guarded by all of her chode friends, so finally I talk to one of the chodes, my friend talks to another and me and the girl make eye contact. I go in, and I start to talk to her and she just says, “no.” lol DAFUQ? Girl-you’ve been staring at me all night!? She was really drunk by that point but still. C’mon son.

    It’s just irritating because I know if I were to run into her during the day, id be able to insta-date. No doubt in my mind.

    So what is the secret to nightclub dynamics?

    I like the idea of going with friends and getting a table and hanging out doing our own thing much more than walking around a venue for four hours wearing out my welcome.

    So what is your first three minutes of an opener sound or look like?

    How do you keep escalating things?

    Teach me your nightclub cold approach ways/

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    Default Re: I suck at club game

    First things first I just wrote a post in this same section check that out. Second we are complete opposites and I am really good at Night Game but have to work on my day game this year. So my previous post was just a warm up here's the real deal.

    Night Game-
    Checking you out you say? Focus on the moment. First flirt with the hot bartenders. Become a regular (during the Summer when hot chicks are out in droves), then buy new clothes, work out and stuff. Lastly have good openers. I have made out with VIP table girls, pulled VIP girls from their friends, caught girls following me around, had the Cocktail Waitress try to pick me up, got the Bartender's number, got bartender's to get me in free, get me free drinks, gotten to know the DJ's, Bartenders, other regulars. Then once all that is done I sometimes find my own wing (while out) then go to town. As you can see getting to know people helps your value in Clubs. Here's how it goes down but believe it or not I like the Bar I go to better.

    10PM- Get a couple drinks in me, check the area, hit up the bartenders, Dj's, regulars, scout for HB's.

    11PM-Approach first Set (usually a 7)

    12:30AM-Done about 10 Sets by now open with "Hey I didn't want to lose you, how drunk are you, are you having fun, where are your friends, hey I noticed you, etc"

    By using these simple tactics I come up with big openers "Bring It, Test Me, You took my breath away" which when calibrated knock it out the park and get me instant validation.

    Let's say a girl is checking me out, even before 11PM I will instantly open the Set. The reason you are failing is cuz you are validation seeking and needy. When I am out to have fun and screw with chicks I get farther. I make things hard to understand on purpose. When she says she can't hear me I tell her she likes hearing me talk and purposely make it funny. When she pushes me away I tell her she wants me more and I re-approach later.

    Example #1
    For instance the target says she "won't give her number" and " is a lesbian" on my 3rd approach I do a low ball move and move into proximity without approaching the target for the target to see me. Target makes eye contact and say with my lips "Come On!?" and throw up my hands to end up with a sad panda face. Target approaches grabs me for makeout.

    Example #2
    Target says to "go away" and pushes me away after my 2nd failed approach as I tell her I forgot her number. Target immediately isolates herself. Follow target and say "But you won't be here next weekend?" With a fun playful vibe. Target is in my arms and begging to go up stairs where we kissed.

    Example #3
    Target is a hardcase. Every approach ends haphazard and quickly usually with the cold shoulder. On my 4th approach finally finally I say "I know now you are not with anyone, have you been waiting for me?" Target "I'm with a guy." but she doesn't say with conviction so I broke through the iceshield by just standing there with conviction and target waits for my next move with conviction.

    Girls checking me out just make easy approaches but you sound like you are approval seeking. When you are approval seeking doing kino, doing the approach, doing the N-close or K-close you are putting tons of pressure on yourself and due to the law of state transfer women can feel this pressure and usually look at you wrong and say "No" because they feel you are not congruent. Also girls are notorious for this and why not a simple friendly hello? They automatically assume romatic intent that's why going direct can help Disarm them sometimes.
    101 Sets, 30 #'s, 4 K-closes, 1 Date, 1 Bar Pull. My next adventure starts Summer 2014 at the Brewfest, Water Park, Bars, Clubs, etc. Getting Hotels now to prevent driving drunk so really only 2-3 times a month doing Night Game June-Oct. Lots of Day Game.

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    Default Re: I suck at club game

    On that note like I said in the previous post I am getting sick of the validation. So I will be pushing the envelope when I am back in action this Summer. Basically like I mentioned calibration is huge. When I say bring it I follow up with bring it to the table what do you got. I pre-plan stuff and then next I am going to be getting very outlandish like saying "Where are your friends or Who are your friends?" Waiting for the hit then saying "I need to know who I am dealing with before I have you all to myself or I need to know if anyone is coming to disrupt the awesome convo we are about to have." Cliffhangers, hits, pings are great mini-compliance tests and this year I will be pre-planning a cocky follow up piece to my opener to run mini-compliance. This should prove interesting! Sounds confusing but like I said openers are cake as I am now Intermediate so adding a follow up to my opener should be a fun challenge for me to try out. Like I said my FR's this Summer are gonna rock!
    101 Sets, 30 #'s, 4 K-closes, 1 Date, 1 Bar Pull. My next adventure starts Summer 2014 at the Brewfest, Water Park, Bars, Clubs, etc. Getting Hotels now to prevent driving drunk so really only 2-3 times a month doing Night Game June-Oct. Lots of Day Game.

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    Default Re: I suck at club game

    Heres a Question or a scenrio for you guys :

    Girl talking to a friend theres loud music everywhere and im trying to game here.

    A) how to deal with the Block (the angry pmsing friend)
    B)communicate while loud music is playing
    C) Isolate her

    bother my Night and day game are non existent

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    Default Re: I suck at club game

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyEyes View Post
    Heres a Question or a scenrio for you guys :

    Girl talking to a friend theres loud music everywhere and im trying to game here.

    A) how to deal with the Block (the angry pmsing friend)
    B)communicate while loud music is playing
    C) Isolate her

    bother my Night and day game are non existent
    A) Use a wingman to talk to the 'angry pmsing friend'
    B) Just smile and start dancing with her. If you're both enjoying the dancing, you can signal to her to move to the bar or a quieter area. Take her hand an lead her where you want to go.
    C) See Above

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    Default Re: I suck at club game

    Oasis Cakes, have no fear of the club my friend!!! Check out my club game advice below.


    http://www.puaforums.com/picking-up-...loud-talk.html

    www.facebook.com/KinoSuave

    @SuaveKino

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    Default Re: I suck at club game

    Hey I think that if you are good at day game then stick with that. You don't have to be good at both and what I've found day game has the hotter women in general although night game can be more fun. Just do what gets your the best and most women! what city do you game?

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    Default Re: I suck at club game

    Quote Originally Posted by oasis cakes View Post
    Hey bros.

    Happy New Year.

    So, I suck at club game.

    When it comes to social/day time interactions it’s pretty smooth.

    Theres no pressure and its very natural to me.

    But at a club there is so much pressure to “perform” or “game” it seems to take the fun out of it. I can’t hear what they’re saying, they can’t hear what I’m saying, and it all seems so fake and forced and idk, it’s weird. I love top 40 music, drinkink and loud speakers so I enjoy clubs for that, but as far as meeting girls to hook up Idk, it just doesn’t work.

    My philosophy is that going out to just have fun with the bros is the best way to do it, because I’m there just enjoying myself with the bros. Unfortunately, they have the same problem as I do. They’re great at social/day game, but not good at nightclub cold approach.
    Soooo...stop putting pressure on yourself. You have the right idea now stop trying so damn hard. Just have fun and approach anyone and everyone at random. Have fun with them, give them a little value, then leave and go back to your boys.

    I know it's weird, but if you're trying to creep on a girl who is just having fun, she's not gonna give you the time of night, but if you're just having fun with everyone, and she's attracted and open to being approached she'll make herself available to you.

    So many times I've just been conversating with my friends and whatever random person we've met that night when I suddenly notice a hottie lingering in my peripheral vision. I invite her into the conversation, which she's rarely interested in, then micro isolate and start seducing.

    ON THE OTHER HAND...there have also been times where I've gone into a club oozing confidence and sexuality and been making out with a girl within five minutes and leaving the club with her (or another just like her) within 30 minutes. I'm more likely to do that if I haven't been laid in a week or more, or if I'm with people I don't really want to hang out with. But I definitely have to be horny and confident.

    Either way, fark that pressure, it's gonna make you seem weird and needy, so let go, have fun, and be natural.

    MiikusMaximus

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    Default Re: I suck at club game

    Quote Originally Posted by danp7 View Post
    Hey I think that if you are good at day game then stick with that. You don't have to be good at both and what I've found day game has the hotter women in general although night game can be more fun. Just do what gets your the best and most women! what city do you game?
    Because who needs to have awesome social skills in any other situation other than daygame?

    Definitely practice for good social skills in every situation.


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