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Thread: Means by which you qualify the woman

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    Default Means by which you qualify the woman

    Listening to Coach Corey Wayne again last night man that guy is incredible. So funny listening to his emails of guys over-pursuing and it always having the same effect. They lose. Now before I could never take this approach but I am now.

    QUALIFY THE TARGET
    About me which most of you know. I sarge massively in the Summer due to the vast abundance of females out. So I decided to do online in my off time. Now POF is a ghost town of hotties and Tinder is a bust cuz did 20 hot chick likes and no matches. But I got a 3 girl rotation going on FB. My old Oneitis is there and she is the least of my concerns right now. My biggest of course excitement is Summer Sarging. So Coach Corey Wayne talks about how guys always over-pursue and the girls always push them away. I came under some pressure on here for wanting to go 3 Days NC and while I may not do that I still may do 2 Days NC. The reason for this is cuz bombarding chicks with a bunch of messages is needy and more often than not I will message less and wait more. This helps me qualify the target better. Mainly because the more you contact them the more you build up this image of unspoiled perfection in your head. When you give more breaks it gives you more space to not be so consumed therefore contracting the ever unwanted Oneitis condition.

    For instance...
    I call, text, or write a girl online. What is the normal reaction out of most women? They say nothing and give no replies but there are exceptions if her interest levels are very high then a quick reply is a usually flaming interaction about to go south or a girl really ready to take the plunge. But most hot women you got nothing usually for the first 24 hours. Why do most targets do this? Mostly ASD. Because of ASD most women will not leap into action at your message but I have caught them on FB and POF checking my messages like they were hooked on crack even though I still don't get a reply right away. So like I said the sarging is coming this Summer but practicing my skills online though it is mostly short lived due to the vast minority of available 9's and 10's online. The scale is tipped more to sarging in finding tons of hotties in a short time and Summer accelerates this factor ten fold.

    WHY YOU QUALIFY
    Most guys don't qualify they just throw themselves wholeheartedly at the girl. Bad move. Never give your heart out to anyone even in Marriage cuz wives cheat, divorces occur, and disagreements happen. If you give your heart out you have a super hard time with break ups and may never recover from a divorce situation. You don't qualify to reject the girl pre-maturely you just use this tool to find out what she is like and what kind of compatibility you two have. Chemistry is the rue of the day not feeling the need to have someone's approval. If you are desperate you will settle for the first hottie you see all the while being possibly unable to recover from that relationship.

    At one time yes I fell in love at first sight with every girlfriend I had and wanted marriage. But now? Meh now I just wanna Sarge man, get good at my Inner Game, get validation, and work on myself. I am too consumed with my own life to give a flying fark if Girl A or B wants to marry me. Now in Coach Corey Wayne's sessions he always talks about guys sending way too many messages which turns the girl off. So just so you guys know I will contact less which keeps me at a distance and strong. For instance I got a 10 on FB I have been talking to. Takes her about a day to get back to me but I follow the Coach's advice and let her do most of the pursuing.

    HOW TO PURSUE
    So I got these 3 girls on FB like I said. But this one 10 has already replied twice so I just got her on NC for 2 days for her to get back to me. I could never pull this off before of getting replies. Usually I would send stuff for weeks or months before finally giving up after hearing nothing. I would usually freak out once I sent them that first message and sometimes message them 3-4 times a day with no answer. This is exactly what the Coach says NOT to do. So I send one message and give NC for 3 days the general rule but not end all be all. Trying that out for now. But when I do that by not sending message after message I got this mini-convo with that 10 going. Will try contacting the other 10 here soon as well.

    To pursue you must not over-message the girl. In fact I just message at my convenience when I get around to it, even if it takes 7 hours. My last message from the 10 was right before 9am yesterday morning. I didn't notice it till like 11am then got to it at around 5pm and then put her on NC to hear back. But the way I used to do it I would reply right away, get no reply so reply again and again till facing a brutal rejection. You get the picture, it's just never pretty when you go AFC. I will also deploy to a certain extent this method for my texting as well as I used to jump into break, run to my car just to text some girl all spazzing out. Now I spaz out and get all fired up when I get a message then just sit on it for a while. Then when we reach the comfort stage I can start the rapid fire replies as I will be ready to take it all in. But in the early going I am just going to sit on it for a while because what you say in The Game is very important. Not to mince words but you really can't piecemeal chicks into dating you. That is you can't sit there and bombard them with messages in hopes of getting them. Especially I noticed when I started texting a girl 6-7 times with no reply I would start to get really insecure and very desperate for her validation. This is why you can't over-pursue and why you must qualify.
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
    -Capn_Jack

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    Default Re: Means by which you qualify the woman

    Nice post Jack.
    That's actually really good advice.

    Guys need to learn that it's not only OK to back off a bit, but it also HELPS.

    You need to express some sort of interest, & make sure it's clear that your interest is "more than friends". You don't want to come right out & say it, or start making sexually vulgar comments... but you DO want to flirt! (Very important!)

    As much as a guy wants to put the pedal to the metal & start running a crap-load of game, he can't project a needy/desperate vibe. So he's definitely better off keeping things minimal at first.


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    Default Re: Means by which you qualify the woman

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mal View Post
    Nice post Jack.
    That's actually really good advice.

    Guys need to learn that it's not only OK to back off a bit, but it also HELPS.

    You need to express some sort of interest, & make sure it's clear that your interest is "more than friends". You don't want to come right out & say it, or start making sexually vulgar comments... but you DO want to flirt! (Very important!)

    As much as a guy wants to put the pedal to the metal & start running a crap-load of game, he can't project a needy/desperate vibe. So he's definitely better off keeping things minimal at first.
    Thanks T-Mal, really great coming from you as you offer very sound advice on here and have a very advanced form of game. I like the way you summed that up. Our intentions at first is to win the girl and thus we over-compensate by over-messaging which in fact happened a lot when I started out and apparently happens a lot in the emails Coach Corey Wayne talks about. But yes I think to communicate properly we will have to learn the means by which we move at a slow but comfortable pace before turning up the heat. Going full blast right away usually has the same impact every time, they get turned off.
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
    -Capn_Jack

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    Default Re: Means by which you qualify the woman

    nothing wrong with going after what you truly want.there are other ways..

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    Default Re: Means by which you qualify the woman

    Again,
    Well said Jack.

    Basically about 2 years ago, I had just separated from my now ex-wife. It wasn't until about April of 2012 (a couple days before I joined the forums here) that I discovered the whole PUA community & the techniques that couple possibly change my life.

    I totally blew myself out with the first couple dozen girls I gamed.
    I got all excited & went overboard trying to qualify myself, as well as seemed waaaaay too over-eager. LOL!
    But I knew there was something real about this stuff, because I was getting the initial attraction right away.

    I just needed to figure out what to do afterwards.


    So what I'm saying is this:
    In less than 2 years, I went from a 41 & 1/2 year old total AFC, to learning & discovering a crap-load of stuff.

    My thing was, I didn't wanna memorize a bunch of routines that didn't fit my personality. I knew there had to be a way to get results quicker & find short-cuts.

    But sometimes a girl takes more work.
    And I'm the type of guy who doesn't mind putting in the time & effort... but meanwhile, I'm keeping myself busy with other girls. (Just so I don't give off that needy vibe & end up bugging the crap out of her.)


    What I'm trying to point out is this:
    If you're not afraid of F***ing up & blowing yourself out in order to learn, you'll learn much faster! And you can discover your own special techniques & reach a point where you're able to come up with almost anything at any given time.

    A lot of guys call that "Natural game". I guess that's accurate, but it's not that you just naturally have it / you're born with it... It's that you get to a level where the game flows through you naturally.



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    Default Re: Means by which you qualify the woman

    Well said we need to need to screw up because the most valuable lessons are learned then in those times. Success comes after you experience a bunch of failures which is what MJ said. But yes I have much to learn. My other 9 on FB checked my message within 2 minutes, man their phones are like chick crack! The 9 is my old Oneitis from POF. Putting her on NC for now.
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
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    Default Re: Means by which you qualify the woman

    Don't get hung up trying to find the perfect opener, or best reply to a text, or snappy comeback when you're talking in person... etc.

    None of that maters as much as confidence & expressing fun does.

    The real key comes down to flirting effectively in the very beginning. Because the sooner you build attraction, the sooner everything else progresses.



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    Default Re: Means by which you qualify the woman

    Nothing has to be complex when theres the easy way..


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