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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    @legitscumbag ''Thing is we are good looking and don't use game.Unless you consider normal conversation and hitting on girls "game".
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    It just so happens I'm rather good looking myself and while I cant say I don't use any game I will say knowing how to handle a shit test correctly is far from common knowledge and im happy I learned about it from PUA's.
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    @legitscumbag ''I want to like you,DeviantMethod,an d you say some things that make sense but then you have to go off the deep end with the creating attraction stuff.''
    You do realize that is impossible?
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    No actually I don't In fact i'm pretty sure a create a shit load of attraction when I talk right, act right, look right, when I say something to portray that I may be a good lover. when i'm flirting I see her increase in attention and receive all the benefits from this. but since you think creating attraction is ''immpossible'' I'm sure you don't agree with this. Attraction is more than looks. If you behave needy in a relationship or beg or show you can't keep her safe, or your not won't leave her no matter want, you will surely be less attractive to her. She will lose both attraction and interest actually. That being said once you except the fact that attraction can be lost you can easily see that it can be gained as well.
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    @legitscumbag ''take out the garbage.All you need is the escalation and scoring part.The attraction is already there or not.''
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    You sound like a person who honestly depends on his ''good'' looks to get the job done for him. Hope your as attractive as you say Because it seems as if you only score with girls who will have you and you are not willing or lack the confidence to pursue a female who doesn't just lay on her back and open your legs because you look like your parents. in fact since you depend on your good look alone you should pat your parents on the back every time you get laid.
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    @legitscumbag ''take out the garbage.All you need is the escalation and scoring part.The attraction is already there or not.''
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    Ever been attracted to a really hot girl then she opened her mouth and you realized she was a nasty bitch?.. I'm sure you lost some attraction for her think about it.
    Ever had a lady attracted to you then you open your mouth displaying your asshole tendencies as you do on PUA Forums and she losing attraction for you?
    think about it..
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    I can actually tell you talk your way out of a lot would be action with females. Because you can't just agree to disagree and you don't respect the opinions of others. I'm pretty sure that hits close to home a bit mate... think about it
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    @legitscumbag ''"Creating attraction" for example is a very damaging concept.When a girl rejects you,it must be because you didn't "create attraction".Not that she just simply wasn't available/interested.I could speak on why it's damaging for a long time but for simplicity's sake I'll leave it at that for now.''
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    Do you think it's possible to create attraction by being a gentleman?
    Being badass? Being a better dresser? or hell just getting dressed up?
    Hate it or love it attraction is a constant for the both increases and decreases based on your actions. I did'nt make the world I just live in it. This is the way things are bro face it. Denial will get you Nowhere..
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    @ legitscumbag ''As an ex believer I do have something against it.Mainly that's it a scam and is a crock of crap that is useless and causes alot of long term problems for many of it's followers.Therefore I feel that giving men access to the truth is worth the time it takes to type these posts every once in awhile,along with wade through all the insecure defensive behavior of many of the posters here.''
    @legitscumbag ''Yes I am.I have years of experience with it.They won't get the return they want.If they want to get laid,especially with high quality attractive women,there are much better ways.''
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    Speak for your self. Your obviously HURT You tired and you failed. It didn't work for you. Why don't you go do you crying somewhere else. like I said your No one to attack those who still have the courage to Take whats not giving to them. To learn and try to improve themselves. Those who have the perseverance to see something through and NOT break down and become a typing Tantrum and a pain in everyone's A$$ on the Forum.
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    @legitscumbag ''E.g. become better looking,make good money,get status,get into a social group with hot girls in it,hire a hooker,etc.''
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    Most of these are all examples of how to increase your own attraction. Since you say increasing attraction is not possible I cant understand why you put this at all. That part about the hooker just scares me but at the same time exposes you for what you really are.. A Legitscumbag who pays for sex...
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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    T-Mal,

    Thank you.I appreciate you opening an honest dialogue.

    What do you mean when you say pickup "works"?

    Do you mean that you can get girls you wouldn't otherwise be able to get by doing pickup?

    If pickup "works" then how come it only works on some girls but not others?

    By definition,if you can "create attraction" then you can get any girl you want.

    Is keeping the girl is beyond pickup,then what do you need to do to keep a girl?

    "However; just being "physically attractive" doesn't build attraction."

    The point isn't that it builds attraction,it's that if a girl doesn't find you attractive to start out with then you have no chance with her no matter what you do.

    "There are LOTS of good looking guys who may get a chance based on their looks... But they blow it when they open their mouths."

    That is true.However,just because a good looking guy blows it by being stupid doesn't mean that his looks don't matter.

    That's like saying that a corvette isn't a superior vehicle to a mini van because the driver of the corvette is an idiot.



    DeviantMethod,

    Thanks for the psychoanalysis.It's okay that you won't be getting paid right?

    So you say you are good looking?And you don't think that this has a significant impact on your results?

    I will agree that knowing about shit tests is useful...insofar as learning how to push past token resistance.

    I wouldn't really call it "game" though.It's a pretty minor thing.It's also something that only comes up with a girl who is already attracted to begin with.It's not a way to "create attraction".



    "No actually I don't In fact i'm pretty sure a create a shit load of attraction when I talk right, act right, look right, when I say something to portray that I may be a good lover. when i'm flirting I see her increase in attention and receive all the benefits from this. but since you think creating attraction is ''immpossible'' I'm sure you don't agree with this."

    What you just don't get is that she already either likes you or not from the get go.She also is either available and DTF from the get go or she isn't.You can't "create" those things but you can sure as hell mess them up.You seem to think that you make her willing when she isn't to begin with.

    The reality is though is that she was willing from the get go,all you had to do was not convince her otherwise.


    "Attraction is more than looks"

    Of course looks is not the entire be all and end all of attraction.

    However to get a chance to begin with you need to physically appealing to the girl.




    "If you behave needy in a relationship or beg or show you can't keep her safe, or your not won't leave her no matter want, you will surely be less attractive to her. She will lose both attraction and interest actually. That being said once you except the fact that attraction can be lost you can easily see that it can be gained as well."

    This is the tired old attempt to downplay the role looks play by pointing out how by being a total idiot you can become less attractive to women.

    Just because a poorly driven corvette will crash doesn't mean that an expertly driven minivan can go just as fast.

    In terms of getting girls who have zero interest in you to begin with,no,attraction cannot be gained.



    "You sound like a person who honestly depends on his ''good'' looks to get the job done for him. Hope your as attractive as you say Because it seems as if you only score with girls who will have you and you are not willing or lack the confidence to pursue a female who doesn't just lay on her back and open your legs because you look like your parents. in fact since you depend on your good look alone you should pat your parents on the back every time you get laid."

    Of course I rely on my looks.Are you stupid?As opposed to what,amazing game?

    Do you enjoy making getting laid difficult?

    Why would I pursue girls who has no interest in me?Do you honestly believe that's a good investment of my time?

    It's wonderful to hear though that you enjoy chasing women around who won't sleep with you trying to convince them to do so.Congratulations.

    I'll give my parents another pat on the back for giving me a brain that is intelligent enough to recognize horseshit.


    "Ever been attracted to a really hot girl then she opened her mouth and you realized she was a nasty bitch?.. I'm sure you lost some attraction for her think about it.
    Ever had a lady attracted to you then you open your mouth displaying your asshole tendencies as you do on PUA Forums and she losing attraction for you?
    think about it.."

    I think girls are actually pretty fond of my asshole tendencies but that's another story.

    I already addressed this one above...yet again just because you can screw it up with a girl by being dumb doesn't mean you can create attraction by being "good".

    In fact I talk about this in my original post that began this thread.

    Ie that a girl who is hot and cool is great.But you only care if she's cool if you think she's hot to begin with.

    If the girl is 350lbs and ugly do you really care or not if she's cool?

    Or are you honestly going to try to tell me that you don't care what a girl looks like,you only care about her amazing personality?

    Of course PUAS always try to weasel out of this double standard they have about looks by claiming that it's "different" for women than for men.Don't make me laugh.

    You must not spend much time around girls if you don't even realize how shallow they can be.They are just as bad as men.



    "I can actually tell you talk your way out of a lot would be action with females. Because you can't just agree to disagree and you don't respect the opinions of others. I'm pretty sure that hits close to home a bit mate... think about it"

    I don't respect stupidity,you're right.

    Maybe I could lose my virginity if only I could learn to respect girls opinions.

    I do agree to disagree with you.But if you want to come here and post your opinion don't be surprised if I respond with my own.





    "Do you think it's possible to create attraction by being a gentleman?
    Being badass? Being a better dresser? or hell just getting dressed up?
    Hate it or love it attraction is a constant for the both increases and decreases based on your actions. I did'nt make the world I just live in it. This is the way things are bro face it. Denial will get you Nowhere.."

    I never said you couldn't become more attractive,you certainly can.

    If you want to call say getting ripped "creating attraction" then yes,you can create some attraction with that.

    My point was that you can't get girls through "game" alone as many PUAS claim.



    "Speak for your self. Your obviously HURT You tired and you failed. It didn't work for you. Why don't you go do you crying somewhere else. like I said your No one to attack those who still have the courage to Take whats not giving to them. To learn and try to improve themselves. Those who have the perseverance to see something through and NOT break down and become a typing Tantrum and a pain in everyone's A$$ on the Forum."

    More like "tried and realized it didn't work.Then figured out what really worked and started doing that".

    It's also not that it didn't work just for me...it won't work for anyone.

    This is another common PUA attempt to deflect the truth.

    Basically,if do PUA and it doesn't work,it's not because there is something wrong with PUA it's because there is something wrong with you.

    Take what is not given to them?That kind of sounds like rape don't you think?

    I am trying to help,does someones opinion really scare you so much?

    Apparently according to you no one has any right to discuss the possibility that something someone is doing might not be the right thing to do.How dare I have the audacity to question pickup on the internet.

    If they want to learn and improve themselves then they should listen to what I have said here.

    I stuck with pickup more than long enough to realize it didn't work.Maybe one day you'll figure that out too.

    If you don't like this thread then quite frankly don't let the door hit you in the behind on the way out.



    "Most of these are all examples of how to increase your own attraction. Since you say increasing attraction is not possible I cant understand why you put this at all. That part about the hooker just scares me but at the same time exposes you for what you really are.. A Legitscumbag who pays for sex..."

    As I said above,there are things which you can do to increase your success.

    Where PUAS go wrong though is in believing that the only thing that matters is game and to hell with things like looks,money,status,e nvironment,etc.

    I've actually never personally payed for sex and I've only been to a stripclub once and a girl payed for my lapdance.

    However,if you just want to get laid,it's an option.

    Navy seals hire escorts.If only they had as much game as you do...

    Maybe it's hard for you to understand that some guys just want to have sex and don't care to try and be PUAS.

    They are too busy doing things like making money and killing osama bin laden.



    "In closing I guess pick up is Dumb just cause you say so..."

    I think I presented plenty of reasons why it's dumb in this thread.

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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    I actually like this thread. As I stated from the beginning I agree with about half of the things your saying. Saying pick up absolutely doesn't work because you don't use it Is not factual. It's only your opinion. That being said I too would never use a pick up line while trying to get a number. I often encourage people to not follow the GURU's verbatim. I absolutely don't agree with everything in pick up. I do however find a lot of it useful, like the terminology, correctly handling a shit test,Techniques broken down. Breaking something down in steps makes it easier not harder. That being said I got the gist of the game from the table of contents.But then again getting laid has never be foreign to me. I've honestly always been over sexed.I did however find the book entertaining. I basically look at pick up as an explanation to what I've always been doing away.SCORING! I think it's pretty good to hear from like minds on the topic. You seem to be knowledgeable. Surely you learned 1 thing along the way you found useful. Bro I agree people shouldn't get so deep in pick up to the point where they can't do anything unless its within the parameters of some GURU. That sounds stupid to me also and I've expressed that on this site in the past check my post. I basically abide by no rules and do what I please by any means. Still its a lot of useful information online in regards to pick up. like it or not. What you call getting laid. Others call pick up. I personally find it informative and entertaining.
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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    I would love to see some examples from you of ugly broke men,especially ones with supposed "game" who are getting high quality hot women.
    i have known quite a few below average broke men who could consistently pull hb7s and 8's its not to say they had the top women of their choice, but the mere fact that they have success with attractive women is enough for me to discredit your claim that getting girls is all about looks and money.

    (i also know several men who are above average looks and who are above middle class but still have no success even with ugly chicks because they are complete AFC's)


    sure people with good looks and money have an advantage, but that alone isn't enough to generate success with the hottest girls.


    You are asking me to disprove a theory that you are presenting as true when the burden of proof is in fact actually on you to prove it,not on me to disprove it.
    i have nothing to prove to you. pua has helped me significantly, i went from being the 18 year old virgin who wondered if he would ever get laid, to a 21 year old who can consistently attract HB8+ girls. while i am not perfect, i have had success using pua.

    you can hate on pua all you want, but that doesn't make me feel any different about it.

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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    Im pretty new to this site. so correct me if i'm wrong...
    it just me or does it seem like someone doesn't want to be here?
    Legit has FAT girl written all over him. Question if you hate pick up so much
    What are you doing on the forum? Because I believe you have to actually be a member in order to post. Thats like going to mass to denounce god. You can be a atheists in the comfort of your own home legit. Why come here at all? You score with hot girls but your on the PUA site not asking questions, not answering them either, just saying you don't believe its real. Why?
    Pick up is a dark art

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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    DeviantMethod,

    Well I think we've both said our piece.Not much else to say.We will of course agree to disagree.


    meteora,

    *Eye roll*

    Dude first of all I seriously doubt you've ever even slept with a hot girl in your life the way you talk.

    So you are the last person who should be talking about how to "generate success with the hottest girls" because you literally have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

    Sorry if that sounds rude but I'm in no mood for this nonsense this morning and I'm just going to speak my mind.

    Of course you,just like every other pickup virgin with an opinion,knows plenty of below average losers "consistently pulling hb7s and hb8s" but then whenever someone asks you to actually verify your ridicolous claim of course you choke and have nothing to backup your claim.

    And on top of all that you are asinine enough to honestly say that you have "nothing to prove to me" while continuing to reply to my thread to tell me how wrong I am.

    So you consistely attract HB8+ girls huh?

    How about you post some proof of your claims or shut the hell up?

    Oh that's right...of course you are going to ramble on about how successful you are but then when anyone asks you to put your money where your big mouth is you say "hey bro,I got nothing to prove to you".Hahahaha

    Imagine if you were going to buy a car and you told the car dealer you wanted to buy the car but before you did wanted to take it to a mechanic to get it inspected to make sure that it wasn't a lemon.

    The dealer looks at you and says "you know what,it's a great car,I got nothing to prove to you.Take it or leave it".

    Of course you would think he was an asshole and untrustworthy and if you weren't an idiot you would take your business somewhere else.

    Considering that PUA is a business that charges men upwards of thousands of dollars to teach them to get laid I think it's fair to ask for proof that they aren't full of shit.

    People like you only make getting laid more difficult for everyone by creating confusion with your nonsense.



    Eww,

    Sorry bro but you are not saying anything I haven't heard a thousand times before.

    Yes I am in fact a 400lb whale and in truth I am just angry because the PUAS only choose the hot babes instead of me.

    I also find it interesting how anyone who disagrees with pickup is automatically "bitter and angry".You guys aren't much of a fan of open discussion are you?

    Why come here?So that men can have access to the truth.Some guys might actually be helped by it.

    If people don't like this thread don't read it and don't reply to it.I didn't write it for you.I wrote it for the few guys who might actually learn something.



    By the way I am laughing at my reputation points right now....they are -639.Hahahahaha

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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    That IS pretty funny... -639
    Not the most popular member here eh? Lol

    Here's something I'll offer for "proof" that the techniques work...

    My success increased dramatically with pua knowledge and application.

    This also translated to "in-person" by the way.


    Need one on one private coaching? PM me for details.

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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    Yoooooooo you guys still going at this? I've been gone for a couple of months and legitscumbag is still defending his honor lmaooooooo.

    "Ultimate ladies man!" lmao yeessss that's exactly what I'm going for I want to be the National Ladies Man of the United States of America. Having my own statue and A holiday to respect my existence in this planet.

    "More about ego than getting a blowjob" OMG! You are a VISIONARY! Like if Scarlett Johansson asked so suck my d1ck I'd be like "Nah bitch, EGO!"

    More productive things to do with my time... hmmmm. Nah fark that! I enjoy going at PUA Forums and to bitch to every single one reply PUAs throw at me because I need to prove a point and feel good about myself.

    I do respect your views in life and pick-up. I just don't like. But I respect it. Pick-up helped a lot of people including me to unleash their own potential. Do i follow all of these how to build attraction, comfort tools that other PUAs do? NO, It's more about learning the fundamentals and then creating your own GAME.

    Farewell my friend, May you enjoy a life full of blowjobs and whatever the hell your into.

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    Default Re: The pickup delusion.Open your eyes

    [If you don't think that a guy who is 6'4,jacked,good looking,and dressed well has an effect on women then you're a fool.]

    Yes of course. No one is saying a guy like that doesn't have an effect on women. A guy like that will create initial attraction in a woman. However, just because he has those superficial qualities doesn't mean he knows how to sustain that attraction. A lot of times guys like that rely on their looks and sooner or lately blow it by becoming needy. Yes, even super good looking guys with muscles and or money can become needy and turn women off. So the bottom line is you have you can have the greatest wrapping paper in the world but if you don't have the real package underneath(something that will sustain her interest)then you are toast. Looking good is part of game but it's not the only part.


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