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Thread: Post-number close sticking point

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    Default Post-number close sticking point

    Hey Guys, this has happened to me at least 5 times since i started out with this stuff.

    So the problem is: I'll have a great interaction with a girl at a club or house party, often including a k-close, and have next to no problem getting her number. But the problem lies in texting them the next day, i tend to get cold responses. So how do I avoid that type of response, and bring back the Tension and energy generated the night before?

    Thanks boys

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    Default Re: Post-number close sticking point

    Hey Rich, thanks for posting.

    A few questions before I can give an accurate answer to your problem:

    1. Is there often alcohol involved? How much?

    2. Are you building comfort or just attraction before the k-close?

    3. Are you sticking around after getting the number? Or getting the number and then bolting?

    How are you handling the exchanging of numbers? Describe how the average number exchange goes down in these situations.

    Only thing that I can say is a definite in your situation without knowing the answers to the above is do not text the next day. I like to wait 2 days. No more, no less. (The night of is sometimes an exception, and different rules apply for an f-close.. Obviously)

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    Default Re: Post-number close sticking point

    Hey 29 thanks for the response.

    1) I tend to talk to the girls that aren't wasted so little or no alcohol involved
    2) I build both attraction then comfort before the k-close, usually i run a shorter routine like strawberry fiels (sometimes the cube) and scan for IOIs
    3)I try to stick around for a few minutes, i think this is where my problem lies

    Usually i'll say something like "My friends and I re getting out of here, give me your number and we'll do something fun on (blank)"

    Thoughts?

    Ghostt

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    Default Re: Post-number close sticking point

    All I can really gather based on your posts is that there might not really be enough attraction there before the Number Close. A lot of girls will give out their number when they aren't actually interested, sometimes even as a way of getting away. I'm not saying that's necessarily the case here, it's hard to say exactly what the issue is in your situation.

    I personally don't like routines like the cube too early on like that.. Some girls I think, while they seem impressed etc, are actually kind of weirded out by it. Think about it..

    You might want to focus more on push/pull. You may be giving too much and not taking away enough. There are a lot of good explanations on push/pull on the net and I believe in these forums.

    You might simply be coming off as too interested. The goal is to impress without TRYING to impress. You want her to go away thinking "Wow, that guy was amazing, and he was just being his awesome self.. He wasn't even trying to impress me!". This is where push/pull really comes into play.

    Funny, confident and interesting will ALWAYS come out on top of routines and canned material.

    After the number close stick around for a little bit. When a girl gives out her number and then the guy leaves right away, she's left thinking that he was just trying to score a phone number so that he can get laid later on, and doesn't actually give a shit about her. This is very frequently over looked, and I think it's an important factor in girls flaking in these situations.

    That's all I got man. Anything else you wanna add, I'll do my best to help.

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    Default Re: Post-number close sticking point

    What kinds of texts are you sending?
    Chances are you're not getting her attention, and are sending the exact same stuff that every other guy would send.


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    Default Re: Post-number close sticking point

    More likely than not this is text problem from the sounds of things (or you're leaving the interaction at a weird time).

    I always text a girl immediately after I head home for the night if I'm interested. Usually that text will include a nickname that's an inside joke from our conversation and something cocky/funny. Doing this does several things: (1) it cements the interaction you had with her by giving her something tangible from that interaction; (2) it tells her that you were listening because you bring up something said in the conversation; (3) tells her you're high value because you're sending something funny and enjoyable, not needy; (4) it tells her that you're not some chump who follows a silly three day rule or whatever; and (5) it shows interest after a major disqualifier (walking away from the HB in the first place is the disqualifier).

    Check out T-Mal's texting guide for general texting advice.
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    Default Re: Post-number close sticking point

    What I've been doing lately with online number closes AND in person number closes that has been working wonders is this:

    I'm saving your number as "nickname". You can save mine as "stud muffin" ;-)

    They always respond positively and I don't respond back. 95 percent of the time they will text me back after an hour or two to re-initiate the conversation.

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    Default Re: Post-number close sticking point

    Yea good point.. The texts themselves could be the issue. In my opinion though, If she was interested based on the interaction itself, your texts would have to be pretty horrible for her to give cold responses based solely on your texts..

    You have an awesome conversation, she kisses you and gives you her number.. She's into you.. But then you text her and she's like "Ok, I was wrong about this guy.. What a d1ck". I dunno..

    What T-Mal says is very true though.. If she's got other guys texting her that are into her as well, your texts might not be grabbing her attention.


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