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    dcgl92 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Fractionation Seduction

    I've read Derek Rakes simplified formula for it and I understand how it works but I'm having trouble putting it into use. Has anybody used the technique and/or has any advice on how to use it in a normal conversation?

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    Default Re: Fractionation Seduction

    It's taking a women's mind from different emotions. From extreme happiness to extreme pain. From my understanding the conversation would go something like this.

    You: Do you remember a time when you felt pain, but you had a friend who was there that helped you get through it?

    Her: Yea (blah blah)

    You: Yea, even though that was a painful time. Your friend made you feel warmth, loved, and cared about.

    Her: Yea, it did. I really love that friend. We've known each other for a very long time.

    You: Yea, I had a friend that was there for me when (some painful situation happened).

    Anyways, the point here is to take her on an emotional rollercoaster. Going back and forth between pain, love. All different emotions. Making all the emotions extremely intense. Trying to bring out her most intense moments of all of these emotions.

    Women are typically more emotional than men. Taking her on this emotional roller coaster builds an emotional bond between you and her that she probably hasn't even experienced with some of her best friends. The point is to also let her talk. You let her experience these emotions within herself, and give her time to experience the emotions as though she is going through them again. You are just kind of creating a "title" for a chapter within the book, and she fills it in.

    Sorry if that convo was a horrible example, but I think it gets the point across.

    Aw sorry didn't answer your question fully.

    You want to take them on the roller-coaster in this order
    Happy
    Pain
    Loss

    To use it. I find a break in the conversation to bring up emotions. You can talk about anything. Talk about her best vacation, or ask her "If you had to pick one day that you could say was the best day of your life, what would that day be?" Then you could just go about asking her how she felt. Stuff like that. Saying "Can you remember how much fun that was? How much at that moment you were sitting there with your friends that you just felt so loved by them" (women do feel loved by their friends).

    Or you can ask her about the worst thing that has ever happened to her. You have to be very crafty on segwaying into different topics.

    For example. You don't want to be talking about going to the fair and the next thing you ask her is like "Have you ever known someone who died?" lol So you must have good segwaying skills.

    You also have to use the right verbs. Such as feel, experience, notice, see. So that it puts her back into when she felt those emotions. You also want to subtly point to yourself during good emotions. In order to "Anchor" that emotion to you. The "pointing" could be you saying "you see this guy in front of you and you realize he will be a big part of your life" the pointing being "this guy" which is you.

    Then you point negative things away from you. "I understand that your boyfriend cheated on you with your best friend. It always hurts when someone does something horrible like that. It makes you feel completely defeated and hurt." The pointing away being the "someone" part.

    It is said that emotions can be anchored to objects. The same way we get excited when we see our dirt bike and get excited because of the ride we are about to go on. It becomes the same concept for them when they see us. They remember the "ride" we took them on.

    I've had great success with this method. It brings your bond to a new level. However, I wouldn't use it to just get numbers. It's major overkill. It's like bringing a nuke to a gun fight.

    - Axl Hunter

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    Default Re: Fractionation Seduction

    Haven't read his book. Game tends to come down to Attraction, Investment, Comfort, Escalation, and Fixing Logistics. Is there one of those in particular you are confused about?
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