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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    Oh if you can learn the technique it definitely does. I have performed methods similar to speed seduction before. The difference was it was for a term paper during my psychiatry schooling. So the intent wasnt to pick up women. What makes it so dangerous to use is that you can trigger whatever emotion you want to, be it attraction or anger. Essentially you are controlling the persons subconsious and basically can make them commit murder for you. If you dont know what your doing you can really mess someone up with this. I dont recommend it. Its cheating in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    Seriously man have you ever just spent some time memorizing them? I use speed seduction too, every morning I just spend an hour memorizing the routines, because believe me after a while they will fly off your tongue and you will be wondering why they were ever difficult to remember.

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    Can someone help me on the structure or speed seduction patterns, if your writing one yourself and how do you structure the actual patterns with fractionation, is is open, Fluff talk, game, pattern for comfort, fractionate with more fluff talk, pattern 2 sexual? I need some help please an expert?

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    Those parttens of ross i am using them........they are great and i did add ss to my game when i am in seduction pharse
    Salute.......

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    where can I find this speed seduction at?

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    Stuffs. . . . Of ross are god. So the thing is what about steven p methods......guys?
    Salute.......

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    Quote Originally Posted by sinister View Post
    Oh if you can learn the technique it definitely does. I have performed methods similar to speed seduction before. The difference was it was for a term paper during my psychiatry schooling. So the intent wasnt to pick up women. What makes it so dangerous to use is that you can trigger whatever emotion you want to, be it attraction or anger. Essentially you are controlling the persons subconsious and basically can make them commit murder for you. If you dont know what your doing you can really mess someone up with this. I dont recommend it. Its cheating in my opinion.

    I am very new to the forum, and I don't know how yall feel about thread bumping/resurrection around here. sorry if I am stepping on any toes.

    but to user sinister, uhm, with all due respect, don't you think you are exaggerating a bit here ? this stuff is not exactly a weapon. I got ross's course in '06 (I think its the same one he offered in '97). the material is extremely difficult to deploy, to say the least. stuff like "the door pattern" is more myth than legend.

    there is a LOT more to get into, but I am going to wait for a reply before I get into it.

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    I have been studying coversational hypnosis for a while now and this is what ross jeffries is doing, I think if you want a way of not using scripts which is the way foward this is what ross jeffries does on the fly, he admits that the scripts are just for practise but you can do this stuff off the fly easily don't think about it to much, like Fluff talk is not scripted go fluff talk then add what's it like when/imagine/if you where to, etc so that will be first part of sentaences, then add a command eg feel/do/let got.

    Look up igor ledochowski conversational hypnosis mastery dvd set, its a ten day lecture from start to finish and he is an amazing teacher and teaches you very well how to use conversational hypnosis on the fly, there all the same princeibals, highly recommened for ross jeffries followrs, peace

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    To understand Ross material you have to basically study NLP and covert hypnosis. Specifically embedded commands, body language and e.t.c

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    Default Re: Jefferies Speed Seduction Help

    there is more to it than just attaining NLP mastery. you have to have cooperative circumstances.

    the chief pathogens that neutralize the healthy PUA are circumstances possibly beyond remedy -

    1) men VASTLY and EXPONENTIALLY outnumber women. don't believe me? do your own research independent of any silly government census report. since when has any government ever told the truth about anything, hmm? just do your own head counts around your own town. you will quickly see my point. women are silly with choices and really don't bear consequence from cradle to grave.

    2) all these techniques assume your ability to have one critically important thing, quiet undisturbed facetime. all I can say is, good luck. between the thousand bells and whistles popping up every 1.5 seconds, and that cell phone of hers, even if she agrees to a few minutes of you buying her a coffee (which she wont) ... good luck. between her friends and her ADD, good luck. between the fact that you don't have anything she doesn't already have an over abundance of, and immediate abundant access to, good luck. you are literally trying to sell her an ordinary rock, when she has a purse full of ordinary rocks that are already weighing her down.

    3) the state's crippling impact on human biology. this is rich subject that could have a discourse video, so I am going to try my best to summarize. between

    - hypergamy - thanks to the welfare state, the only resources not siphoned at gunpoint, are the illegal kind, therefore THAT becomes the new currency. not only does she have food stamps and welfare, but the state monopolized educational system serves her and her alone, she also has first choice to all the choice jobs over you, she gets promoted at a fraction of the rate you do, all while being expected to do only a fraction of the kind of work you do. there's nothing you have to offer, that hasn't already been stolen from you at gunpoint, and given to her.

    - hypoagency - thanks to the welfare state, girls are not required to have any form of competitive standards of development, in order to be catapulted into the highest echelons of society's esteem and the state's regard. trying to engage with her will be akin to pulling at air. you will burn out way before her ability to silently stand there and being fat ugly stupid yet still infinitely popular. it's because "vagina" ... she wins. she ALWAYS wins. she is beyond any reproach or accountability. always has been since she was born, and always will be until her dying day.

    and finally, her

    - amygdala - heaven help you if you are not white, because nothing else will. the law already bends all men LOW before any female. however when she sees that a non-white man, no matter how well off he is, will never have the kind of power a regular ole white dude will have in society at large ... when she sees that no matter what, a non-white man will have a struggle for respect ... her little brain is going to start convulsing. after all, easy beats hard, and racism may be a form of genetic aristocracy, but this is an aristocracy in which we live and virtue is luxury nobody can afford, especially not of something so weak as the undeveloped will of a female.

    you, as a man in this world, will profoundly understand nothing else but frustration.

    and here's a bonus - if you want to know where LMR stems from? it was always there from the very first time she laid eyes on you. you see, the game changes every 5 years. it is the driving edge of human evolution, because women are driving the car. they are determining the factor of reproduction, and of whose genes are being selected to propagate. we are being selectively bred by the ruling class in this way. understand that less than 40% of all males throughout history have ever reproduced, yet 100% of all women have. the ones who haven't are so few in number they amount to the margin of error in any measurement. women, by nature, are manipulators. the only real ability to meaningful labor they wield is directly related to the kinds of men they have control over, and how many of such men they do. that's why they entertain you up until the point of actual access to the golden uterus. its a vicious game of chase the dragon, and a brand of evil that god actually exuberantly celebrates ... and rewards. make no mistake, you are up against real fucking power here gentlemen. your craving and servitude to her is biologically baked into your DNA. after all, this was the genetic legacy that forged you in the first place ... the blind photocopy of fate.

    you, as a man in this world, will profoundly understand nothing else but frustration.


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