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Thread: getting solid number closes. -meteora

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    Arrow getting solid number closes. -meteora

    alright guys, sometimes getting numbers can seem really easy, however, turning those numbers into dates can be a different story.

    getting flakey numbers is about as easy as saying hi and handing your phone to the girl (and hoping she doesn't run off with your phone lol)

    a year ago I literally used to get tons of numbers from conversations like this:

    me: hey, you look friendly. I'm meteora
    her: awww, I'm wonder woman
    me: wow, that's a pretty name, how do you spell it?
    her: w-o-n-d-e-r
    (as she said it I type her name into my contacts on my phone)
    me: here (hands her phone so she can finish her contact information)
    her: okay, just don't drunk text me at 1 am
    me: I probably will
    her: lol you better not.
    me: just wait till Saturday night comes around
    her: ughh lol
    me: gotta run, i'll text you

    these were what I came to call cheap number closes. they were cheap because they were easy to get and most of the time numbers gotten like this never lead to dates.



    most of the girls never messaged me more than a few times and during the month long period that I ran sets like this I got roughly 65 numbers. out of those 65 only about 15 even replied to my messages, and out of those I only actually went on dates with two of those girls.

    at first I blamed it on my text game, (witch I admit has always been a weak point in my game) I realized I had to change my approach somewhere. the question was simple.

    how could I turn more numbers into dates?

    the answer was simple. spend more time in set building attraction.

    I started running longer sets, of course this actually caused me to get fewer numbers, but the numbers that I got lead to more dates.

    this Is what brought me to a good conclusion.

    the more time you spend in the first interaction, the more likely that the girl will want to hang out with you later on.

    of course that doesn't mean you can bore her for 2 hours and expect her to want you. you've got to tease her and make her laugh during the time you spend with her.

    so what exactly guarantees a solid number?

    the magic answer is... her emotional investment.

    you need to ask her questions and use qualifiers to get her to display her value to you.
    the ideal set is not one where you're doing all the talking.

    the ideal set is one where the girl is doing more of the talking (they're good at it aren't they? lol) and her demonstrating her value to you. meanwhile all you have to do is show some interest and occasionally relate to her.

    now I won't ask for a girls number until I'm 20 minutes into the set. (of course I don't actually watch the clock, but I have a good since of timing)
    I usually wait until I get through attraction phase and get some comfort built. I like to get her to tell me a story before i'll even ask for the number. that way she has invested in the interaction before I get her number.
    the way I see it, if a girl doesn't invest much into your first interaction, what makes you think she's going to invest into your text game, or more importantly your second interaction.

    so after every set, think to yourself "how much did she invest in our conversation?" this is always a good way to measure her attraction for you.

    so now when I enter a set it might go something like this:

    me: wow, I love you hair, there's just something so unique about it, I bet you enjoy standing out from the crowd.
    her: thanks, i died it myself!
    (obviously attracted to my confident body language, she's already starting to invest in the interaction)
    me: oh really? that means you're independent, and maybe even slightly rebellious
    her: only slightly rebellious? I'm the wild child in my family lol
    (again she's qualifying to me)
    me: wow, me too, we must have so much in common tell me, what was the wildest thing you've done in the past month?
    her: wouldn't you like to know
    (hinting at sexuality: huge ioi)
    me: damn, i was hoping to hear a good story (fake sad face)
    her: lol, i can't tell you that one, but this one time... blah blah blah
    me: (relates to her story with one of my dhv stories about the wildest night of my life) (gets number midway through the story, then finishes telling it)
    her: relates back to my story
    me: (looks at watch) wow I've enjoyed talking to you, too bad i have to go to work at five.
    her: bew... (obviously she want to keep talking to me)
    me: i tell you what, tonight after work I'm going to the tilted kilt, they're having 5 dollar drink specials tonight. come out so we can get to know each other
    her: sure, sounds good.
    me: i'll text you (leaving)

    notice how much more the woman invested into this interaction over the first one?
    the more time and effort a woman invests, the better your odds of getting that date will be.

    pro tip: setting up the first date during your set will make it twice as likely to happen. have some ideas for dates in the back of your mind.


    solid game begets solid numbers

    METEORA

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    Default Re: getting solid number closes. -meteora

    bro I like your analysis. I started to day game a lot recently and I definitely need to work on my attraction phase and comfort level. But I have also been working on text game I think if you are bad at one but can compensate with the other its all good. Of course ideally you would want to have both down.

    I actually got the girls to ask me out over text a couple of times and I think the key is to just not appear needy, which is related to not texting them right away making them wait.

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    Default Re: getting solid number closes. -meteora

    I have also been working on text game I think if you are bad at one but can compensate with the other its all good. Of course ideally you would want to have both down.
    i figured out that you can't compensate using good text game. if your face to face game isn't good, then you're not going to compensate for it with any amount of clever text game.

    simply put, you're never going to f-close over the phone, if your face to face conversation isn't good (and congruent with you're text game) you still aren't getting laid. in person game trumps text game any day.

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    Default Re: getting solid number closes. -meteora

    its best to move off if you fail at first but then don't stick around and act like a puppy.for learning purposes move off.

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    Default Re: getting solid number closes. -meteora

    This is good info. I don't spend much time in set during day game. It is indeed easy to get numbers but I gotta focus on getting her to invest more before parting ways

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    Default Re: getting solid number closes. -meteora

    Agree completely Meteora.

    Emotional investment is everything.


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