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Thread: Massive aproach

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    TheGuyYouWishUWere Guest

    Default Massive aproach

    When im sarging lately im in such a good mood and confident that i open nearly all HB8 +'s in a club and have some solid routines to #close, kiss-close and f-close sets.

    The problem i encounter during these massive aproaches is that when i closed about 4 or 5 sets the girls seem to notice that i'm picking up #'s and flirting with multiple sets. Instead of benefitting from social proof and see more reluctance to get into a vibe with me because they have seen me do it with many others.

    Therefor i thought of a strategy as where i would get the hottest babes of the clubs to #/kissclose first and then use them as social proof to do the same for HB8's.

    Problem is that the HB8's are then more then willing to engage in conversation and escalation, but the earlier SHB's are seeing that i'm getting #'s from girls way under their league and interpreting it as dlv perhaps? In any case it makes it harder to f-close the SHB after she has seen me #close a HB.

    What do you guys do in such a situation?
    And in generally how do you engage alot of sets if the venue where you are at is small and even if you isolate the target she's still visible?

    Also what is your vision on sarging the SHB's first because of it, or should i build social proof with Hb8's without needing it to score SHB's?

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    Default Re: Massive aproach

    Haha, quit ur bitchin! LOL

    Glad you're killin' it out there!
    Sounds like you need to go somewhere different after that happens. social proof is useful up to a point but after that you're just a "pick up artist" and you gave yourself away by being too good at it. While girls may appreciate the fact that other women like you, most of them are turned off by someone who is OBVIOUSLY a "player", unless they're sluts to begin with. So if you get 7 girls numbers one night, and 7 the next, and 7 the next, quite frankly you're probably swimmin' in women so skip the clubs and start hanging out with some of the 21 women you've met! Are you addicted to getting numbers??? If you're doing that well it's time to just be more picky and only approach the hottest sets and count your blessings brother.

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    TheGuyYouWishUWere Guest

    Default Re: Massive aproach

    Thanks for the solid reply Miko,

    I've thought about venue changing (another club) myself when i closed a couple of sets, do you have field experience with that? Is it easy to build enough social proof at multiple clubs to get the SHB's?

    I have to go to parties for my job, so it's really tempting when you're 4 out of 7 days around sets to open them.. You think it's better to NOT open some sets even if you can?

    How do you feel about taking a target you're sarging with you to a club the next day, while still opening sets? I've done it a couple of times and it works great if you get them to drink, get drunk and then DON'T take advantage of the situation. Meh maybe i should open another thread for that one though..

    Back on topic, if you decide to stay and work let's say 3 sets. You're in a small club (200 people) so everyone can see what you are doing, is it possible to kiss-close a HB8 and then there-after go for the other sets? It's quite possible that they saw you kiss-closing another target..

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    Default Re: Massive aproach

    To be honest bro, I'm not the guy with the most field experience around here but I was just responding to what was obvious from your post. There's a balance between 'social proof' and looking like a 'man whore'. I can't think of anything in life that is beneficial in excess. Not booze, not women, not money...ok, maybe money but that's IT! Making out heavily with one in front of the next set is probably not good at all. No woman wants to feel like she fell for your 'tricks' or 'game' and if she sees you making out with others 5 minutes earlier she'll label you a scumbag and you're done most likely. Sounds like you don't need any help. More women more problems. Not a bad problem to have my friend. Try spending more time with a set you like and dig a little deeper into them instead of just trying to close as many as possible.

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    sh3pherdd Guest

    Default Re: Massive aproach

    if you're having success with the 9's and 10's don't waste your time with the 7's and 8's. i agree with all of them. not like you have time to date all these girls anyways

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    Pinai Guest

    Default Re: Massive aproach

    Looks to me like you're actually seeking validation and approval instead of being a confident alpha male. I also don't know why you'd rather open new sets and get more numbers when you're already kissing someone.

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    Default Re: Massive aproach

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinai View Post
    Looks to me like you're actually seeking validation and approval instead of being a confident alpha male. I also don't know why you'd rather open new sets and get more numbers when you're already kissing someone.
    Agreed. So you are number closing (very good btw), why not start some instant dates, and if it works out, turn that into a sleep over. Instead of saying "Ok I can '#' close 5, why not 10 or 20. Let's say, ok I can Number Close well, lets see if I can get an Instant Date or if you want it, a One Night Stand."

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    TheGuyYouWishUWere Guest

    Default Re: Massive aproach

    Thanks for the replies

    I hadnt seen it that way yet! I think you guys have a solid point there, would you suggest limiting myself to a SHB per session and try to escalate with her as far as possible from there on? When WOULD you open multiple sets?

    Im sarging tommorow so im sure to give this a try..

    Also the club nights here are from 11 till 5, im usually at the club around 12 so thats 5 hours.. would u guys suggest isolating a girl for that long at the club? Venue changing with her? Going to the club later?

    Nice to see there is actually a forum where i can get genuine, usefull replies..

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    Instinct Guest

    Default Re: Massive aproach

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuyYouWishUWere View Post
    Thanks for the replies

    I hadnt seen it that way yet! I think you guys have a solid point there, would you suggest limiting myself to a SHB per session and try to escalate with her as far as possible from there on? When WOULD you open multiple sets?

    Im sarging tommorow so im sure to give this a try..

    Also the club nights here are from 11 till 5, im usually at the club around 12 so thats 5 hours.. would u guys suggest isolating a girl for that long at the club? Venue changing with her? Going to the club later?

    Nice to see there is actually a forum where i can get genuine, usefull replies..

    the quicker you can get her on an Instant Date, with her friends approval, the better.

    Remember, if her friends dont know, they will end up calling her an she will leave. Get to know the friends before isolating. Try and get 3 club make outs, and 1 instant date. If you can get that, then you are doing very well. (I would say from meeting to instant date, you need anywhere from 30-45 minutes on average to be honest, anything less than that and I loose respect for the girl.)

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    Default Re: Massive aproach

    Just like everyone else is saying, you are concerned about the wrong things. You have conquered getting phone numbers... there's no need to keep getting more. Practice picking the right time for the pull. Pick whoever you find that you are the most interested in, talk her up, and like instinct said go on an Instant Date or just pull her home once you feel that you have done a good enough job working her up. You shouldn't wait the full 5 hours because well thats a long time and because then its the club doing the pull for you instead of you doing it yourself.


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