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    Arrow Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    not every woman is going to want to sleep with you. its just something you have to come to terms with. as a matter of fact it would be safe to say that over half of the woman you will talk to won't want you sexually. (that doesn't mean the other half won't)

    some woman are married, some just want friends, some have boyfriends, some are lesbians, some are emotionally damaged, some are rape victims, some are grouchy all the time, some are busy, some are snobby, some are manipulative prudes, some are racist, some have ridiculously high standards that no guy will ever meet. the list goes on.



    but there is something I want you to see, none of the reasons I listed have anything to do with you and are all completely out of your control.

    what you should learn from this:

    you can't blame yourself for every failure.

    while this doesn't mean you aren't partially responsible, it means that you shouldn't take any one or even 100 failures so personally.

    many woman are in disposition to dislike you sexually.

    now I may have you a little worried that no woman is going to like you, but that simply isn't true. there are many ways to increase the odds that a woman will respond positively (after all that's what pick up is all about)

    there is never a 100 percent guarantee that you will get the outcome you want. that's life.

    you probably won't have sex every time you approach a woman, (and even if you could, that would only Take Away from its appeal)

    pickup teaches you to have a winning attitude. that winning attitude comes from facing trial and error.
    the cliché saying "if at first you don't don't succeed, try and try again" comes to mind.

    it is likely you will tell the same dhv stories over and over to hundreds of woman. now you shouldn't feel bad about it, each approach (success or failure) gives you the opportunity to work on your social skills.

    many sets won't pan out.

    I want to give you some examples of sets that didn't pan out for me. even the best of us will never see a 100% success rate.

    me: hey can I get you're opinion about something?
    her: before you ask me how you look, i'll tell you, I think you look gay as a clown.
    (I was peacocked out)
    me: (almost spitting my beer out laughing) you're funny, tell me another joke lol
    her: that was an insult not a joke.
    me: well if you're going to insult me, try coming up with something more original, its 2013 gay jokes are so out of style.
    her: (cold look on her face clearly angry that I was un-phased by her insults) leave me alone.
    me: buy... it was nice meeting you too... lol
    her: get lost.

    (as I walked away I thought to myself: "I think she could use a tampon lol")

    some women can be cold, always stay calm and "kill them with kindness" if you aren't getting anywhere leave and go enjoy the rest of your night.

    example 2
    me: wow I like your dress, it fits you well
    her: your just saying that cause you want in my pants.
    me: slow down girl we haven't even kissed yet.
    her: and we aren't going to, I have a boyfriend.
    me: you could have fooled me, where is he?
    her: he's over their shooting pool, and I'm going to have him kick your @ss if you don't stop hitting on me.
    me: wow, I love how friendly you are.
    her: shut up.

    (she starts walking over to her boyfriend and I slowly move towards the door, she talks to him and points at me, I got the hell out of there, she wasn't kidding)

    example 3

    me: hey, you're the best looking cashier that's checked me out all day (clearly using a double entendre)
    her: lol I'm not checking you out.
    me: yes you are (pointing at the item she just scanned)
    her: really? you must love pissing people off.
    me: lol I was teasing.
    her: you teased the wrong lady today.
    me: I'm so glad you're in such a good mood.
    her: just swipe your card and leave before you really piss me off.
    me: aww I can tell you really love your job.
    her: just stop. you're annoying me.
    me: bye, have a pleasant day.
    her.... (speechless)


    notice, all three of these scenarios were mostly out of my control, the woman involved were all predisposed to dislike me.

    weather it was the assuming woman who's been approached too much, the girl who "doesn't want to be hit on and likes sicking her boyfriend on guys" or the grumpy cashier who had had a bad day at work. you will probably run into some woman who don't want to be approached or talked to let alone seduced.

    you can't really make these woman like you. as a matter of fact trying to make an angry woman like you will likely make them even more angry. save yourself time and effort by just walking away from these types of woman and keep your head held high.

    not every woman will like you, accept it and move on to greener pastures.

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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    I would label this as one of the top 10 posts I've read on this site. This advice is especially applicable to newer PUA's, who make a much bigger deal out of each individual interaction with girls due to having a smaller sample size of them. For someone like that, one instance similar to these examples can be overly disheartening and have you thinking about it for the rest of the day. This post does a great job of showing why you should not allow this to be the case, and will save people a lot of stress that they would be having from over-analyzing situations like these.

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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    I love this. It actually encourages me to go out and start day gaming. I have strictly been gaming on familiar grounds just to train my social skills and then move on to cold approaches. I love your perspective and it is true but most of us ignore this and strictly blame it on our own shortcomings. I do.

    I haven't been active for the past 2 months with too much work and now working towards a motorcycle by next month. Once I get my ride, 100% back to game

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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    It's true some women are total bitches, but what can I say, I would rather take an asskicking then run from a fight hehe. We had one of those the other night, my friend opened a 3 set while we were getting a bite to eat and his target was a total bitch, you gotta give my buddy credit for sticking it out to the end though.

    She was saying things like
    "I bet your a pothead" (Which he isn't and only denied it)
    "I only date guys with nice teeth" (to which I replied, what are you doing, buying a slave? That's cool though I don't date shallow women, I need someone on par with me intellectually.)
    "I bet you have a small dick."

    He just kept trying to qualify himself to her, so I gave him a play-by-play later on every AFC thing he did.

    I laughed and had a good time, even though these girls were total bitches all the way around I sat there talking shit back and making fun of them, even had the shy one practically begging for my number, but I saw her text someone "I love you." So I didn't take it.
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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    Met hit the nail on accepting that some women will reject you but then overall make sure to go over your material.sometimes the reason why you may be failing may be because of simple step you missed or something you have tried that someone might have been in that spot and handled it through trial and error etc. .everyone has had some rejection too.some just wanted the best for themselves.overcame a few snags.

    I was at a cafe and a girl was looking in my direction, i decided to approach counting to 5 in my head with eye contact before i moved in.

    i left my table and moved in and this girl seem to love my opener.we chatted and my phone rang so i went aside signalling her to excuse myself i left her range and went back to attend to my table.coming back i noticed she was on phone and my friend had come and was signalling me to meet him outside through the window.

    After all was done i went to talk back to this girl and had forgotten where we were(re Approach Anxiety).suddenly all IOIs disappear. i really like this girl so that's when my bubbled dropped.being early in my transition stage of learning i dropped a huge c n f.and she busted out laughing. that didn't really fix much so i pulled.again i met this girl a bit long after that time at the same place and i transitioned.(i thought about the approach prior to meeting her again but got over it cause i focused on other sets)
    Never take rejection personally and move on from the set talking about practical in field approach..Peace

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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    I didn't know you struggled Meteoro? But anyway I like reading about the struggles sometimes more than the successes. Granted it is nice to know guys are getting laid but until I get laid (not a virgin) through Pick Up I can't really rejoice as much as I would had I been there, done that type of deal.

    Me too, I have my struggles especially with 10's. 10's are like my weakness but when you want the best it is hard to settle for the rest. Well anyway it is getting harder for hot girls to turn me on since I lost a lot of crushes I used to have. Ever since getting rid of Oneitis I feel like I don't like anyone anymore since I never grow attachment or else Oneitis will result.

    I guess I appreciate the fact that pretty girls stare at me all the time but at the same time I can't friggin F-close worth a dime. N-close and K-close sure. I have approached like 4 10's in a row so maybe that's my problem need to go back down or something. I will have a full story to share once Summer is over but for now just hitting the Gym, getting tatted, increasing my wardrobe, you know the basics.

    I guess I just need some sunshine babes. You know some Daygame. I know there is a place where you just go up to a chick and have fun and it works out for the better and you score. But a lot of stuff has to go right and I feel women are often lots of times hesitant since they could get pregnant or become used whereas guys don't feel that way they feel like they conquered some great quest.

    But I still know I need to make a move the Beer Festival is in one month, my next tatt a week before, and I need to get this thing airborne. But this is the reason why I am so big on openers likely your openers didn't create a good enough hook to transition from the hook to create a social Hook Point.

    Granted aa is going to kick my butt this year but I got to do it and once I kick it into overdrive the AA will disappear and Inner Game reappear. Last year I approached so frequently I approached on a dime and got 4 numbers in 30 minutes with little to no effort. This was largely due to me being in the zone and approaching so consistently the days before. Now I am back in a funk since I had the winter off so it will take me some time to heat back up then I will be back to fearless approaching in no time. Just walking up to random women on the street, in the club, at the park, you name it. And they expect it.
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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    Meteora, I liked this post a lot.

    I wanted to add from a more advanced perspective, having the inner game belief that every girl wants to sleep with you is a very good thing.

    It fits into the whole direct, "bad boy" shit

    I actually frame my inner game that exact way. That every girl I interact with that I am also mutually interested in does, Indeed, want to sleep with me.

    I'm also a natural, & "bad boy" game is 100% congruent with who I am, so having that mentality works for me, as it may work with plenty other naturals.

    I guess I just wanted to say that naming the thread "not every girl wants to sleep with you." From an inner game perspective, is a self-hindering idea for some.

    Have you ever considered framing your inner game that way meteora? I'm curious to what your beliefs are, & what you're even looking for.

    I do agree though, the girls I DONT pull, always hurt me somewhat. Once you get so used to "getting" girls, that once a girl isn't interested, or you can't pull her it's like WTF. Lol.

    I could have 5 other girls on rotation but that one girl you can't pull always seems to mindfuck you.

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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    I didn't know you struggled Meteoro?
    lol jacksarge, I was giving examples of bad sets to illustrate the fact that you can't expect to always win. even being fairly good with woman, I still have bad sets every now and then. some woman are just plain unfriendly and theres nothing you can do to change that.

    if you really must know where I struggle, my problem has always been dealing with larger mixed sets, they drain my conversational energy a lot faster than smaller sets, and amogging is a hastle I don't like bothering with (even though I'm getting better at it)


    I have my struggles especially with 10's. 10's are like my weakness
    really? a girls hotness affects your game? you've got to learn to treat them all the same.
    I had the same problem a year ago, but after sarging in new York city, none of the girls back home compare to the girls I talked to while I was there.

    But this is the reason why I am so big on openers likely your openers didn't create a good enough hook to transition from the hook to create a social Hook Point.
    see imo openers don't matter that much, but you are right that I don't always hook sets (sometimes I mess up my transition to comfort)

    It fits into the whole direct, "bad boy" shit
    ah, see theres one thing there. I'm not really all that much of what you consider a bad boy.

    I am a high value guy with lots of dhv's, so i use the frame that I'm a high value guy looking for a high value girl.
    (so in my case the frame that "not every girl wants to sleep with you" is perfectly fine for me)

    of course I'm not the "predictable nice guy" I'm more the "unpredictable fun valuable guy"
    (of course this causes girls to want relationships not sex... :/ )


    Have you ever considered framing your inner game that way meteora? I'm curious to what your beliefs are, & what you're even looking for.
    tough question.
    i have framed my game like "every woman wants me", it has worked sometimes, but i never really mastered being a "bad boy" because it doesn't go all that well with my personality.


    my major belief is that if you have real value woman will want you, pretending like woman want you won't really make them want you.

    recently i have actually been taking a break from going out so i could workout more and focus on earning more money. I'm working on giving myself as many advantages as i can.

    i concluded that half of winning the battle, is just having the advantage to begin with.
    (and honestly i was born with both advantages and disadvantages)

    honestly you have caused me to do a great amount of self analysis. for that i thank you kyle.

    as for what I'm looking for, i guess i just want to fill the void in my life... in high school i was never popular and i literally didn't date anyone till i was 18. my strict religious parents held me back a good bit.
    ( not to mention that they had some of the sh!ttiest dating advice one could ask for, like "god will send a woman your way when your ready for it to happen" lmao) (and this explains why I'm not religious)

    but back to that whole void thing, I've always wanted to be popular and have lots of women. that's why I'm a pua.

    I've had success with woman, but i have yet to have very many friends or date more than one woman at a time. (i always get bored with the woman I'm dating before i have time to cheat on her lol)

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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    I feel you meteora, I've been on a semi-hiatus for a year or so. I guess you could say I quit chasing women to put all of my focus on myself. My goal is no longer to get laid, its to live life. I still game a girl here or there, but never put much effort into it as I'm focused on a career at the moment, though I do need to get some gym time in, I don't have time for it so I have just been focusing on improving my diet, and though slow I have still been losing weight.

    Basically, I've found that I'm more attractive to women, but they see my busy schedule as making me unattainable, which it kind of does, but I've adopted the philosophy of just flowing with life and taking opportunities when I see them hehe.
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    Default Re: Not every woman wants to sleep with you.

    There's something really entertaining about the crash and burn--although it all sucks when we're the one crashing and burning.

    It seems like most of these scenarios the approach was too cocky and not enough funny or playful on top of not knowing when to pull back... I think these are great examples of when to not push... Here's a video example that highlights what I'm saying... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ga_xjX3hs


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