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    fancy is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Girls are never on their own...?!

    Hi guys

    I've been reading on this forum for quite a bit now and just made the decision to register. It's a pleasure to be here and I am looking forward to your advice!

    Just a very quick summary: I am 25, living in currently in Germany, working in (B2B) marketing. My job keeps me traveling a lot which I really enjoy. The only downside to this is that my industrie is mainly run by old men but certainly not by hot chicks. So I've been single for almost a year now. Before that I was in a relationship for roundabout 6 years with a couple of short breakups in between.

    I am actually not bad with girls. Once knowing them a little I am doing really well I'd say. But here's my problem.

    What I suck at is approaching a girl. I started working on that and certainly saw some (tiny?) improvements in the recent weeks. However what I suck at the most is approaching a girl that is accompanied by someone. And in my observation 99% of them are!

    Just today I saw one really cute chick at an airshow (kinda one of my hobbies) but she was accompanied by (what I guess was) her mom, dad, sister, grandparents and probably her brother or cousin. In my experience approaching a girl in front of her whole family is pretty much never gonna get you anywhere so I thought to myself if she leaves the group to get some drink/food or whatever I give it a shot but guess what - that never happend...

    Later on my way home I picked up a coffee and there was this pretty girl ordering her coffee in front of me. But again she was with 3 female friends chatting excitedly about something. She gave me a quick look, I gave her a quick smile but again from there my mind went blank and I had no damn clue how to proceed.

    So please Gentlemen, share some of your knowledge with me and give me a hint how to handle these situations. Any input much appreciated just don't be toooo harsh on my I am new to all this stuff ...

    cheers
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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    I think the simplest thing to do is approach the group, and talk to her friends first and ignore her for bit before you actually talk to her.

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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    watch this clip--you'll want to pay attention at 6:45...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI1Y3EPOONI
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    Fire Eater,

    I think the simplest thing to do is approach the group, and talk to her friends first and ignore her for bit before you actually talk to her.
    First of all thanks for your reply. I agree this strategy might be a challenge that one fine day I'll be able to master. However I don't really see this working for a situation where a girl is sourrounded by her family and not a couple of friends.

    artandale,

    That's a cool vid, I love how he involves her mother in this kind of old fashioned but playful way. I will try to keep this example in the back of my mind!


    Anything else that worked for you guys? Let me know!

    Cheers
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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    you can be direct or indirect--its up to you. being direct is just less crap to deal with--you don't have to wait 1 hour later to Number Close. if you ask the right questions you can break through and close a lot faster if you can read her properly. just make sure your vibe is positive and fun.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    It is true most of the time when a woman goes somewhere she is not alone. While I do daygame I prefer hours when most of the people finish work around 5-6 p.m. they are more "solo" woman going home, going practising something or go to date with friends or man. And they have time to talk. If more than one bothers you try that time. And place either. Parks, coffee streets, malls are places where women go to spend their free time. That means they are not probably alone. Find some streets that are full with people walking to do something or going somewhere.

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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    Thanks Ivo you raised some good points!

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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    If you want an actual conversation then you should gain rapport with the group first. Even harder is when there are other men in the group with your target but instead you just approach them and butter them up a little 'Hey whats that your drinking? Is that a belgium beer? Any good?' Talk about anything and gain their trust, next minute you will be introduced to the group and eventually your target. If its a really difficult situation that's hard to penetrate you can try a quick approach and just simply walk up, introduce yourself with a smile and ask for her number. Ive never asked a girl out in front of her parents so I can't help on that one. Maybe ask the mother if you mind asking for her daughters number haha. Just start with being a friendly guy who is having fun, confident and out to meet new people. Let the numbers roll in naturally.

    This is where online dating or look around gps functions on chat apps are useful. Everyone on there is essentially single and looking. You can tee up dates in different cities if need be.

    As IVO said find places like cafes, malls or libraries where women are more likely to be alone too. That is sometimes the hardest way to pick up of all so its good practice.

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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    Yeah whats up with them rarely going out solo and always being with friends whereas I see guys out alone all the time

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    Default Re: Girls are never on their own...?!

    Artandale, you say "if you ask a right questions", but what are a right questions?! Master will probably know, but begginer like me... I have no clue what is a right question in that kind of situation. Can you give us some examples, please?

    Thanks!


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