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Thread: Rate This Opener

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    Hey, I'm not that good a PUA myself and I'm kinda testing some openers, see what works best. So while I continue my erring journey I want you guys to rate this opener and tell me what to fix.

    The Opener:
    I'll spot a girl or a set and approach them without overthinking it to much and say "Hello girls, how are you?" They will probably answer with good or fine after then I'll say "I have a question to ask you". In case of a set I'll address in plural and diverge my attention to all set members besides my target. After I drop that line I'll say "How would you describe your perfect man." Girls will then proceed to romanticize their ideal man. After they're done I'll jokingly say "Perfect, thanks for your input, I'll go meet my friends that are waiting for me and then I'll be back once I meet those criteria."

    I will then leave for some minutes, hopefully showing that I'm not desperately trying to hunt down girls, instead showing that Im there to have a good time with my friends. About 15 minutes later I'll approach once again and ask them for their names, after which I'll proceed to Isolate my target and try to close.

    Please let me know what you think about this and how can I improve it.

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    Default Re: Rate This Opener

    You're already over-thinking it.
    Just learn to be relaxed & non-outcome dependent.

    It's all about confidence, standing out & not giving a crap about what happens.


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    Default Re: Rate This Opener

    I do not think this is a solid opener. You are devaluing yourself from the moment you arrive even by saying "hello, girls, how are you?" because EVERY guy that approaches them says that. You even further devalue yourself by saying "i'll be back when i meet that criteria." Besides ... don't ask a girl what she wants ... girls don't know what they want. lol. that's why PUA works.

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    Default Re: Rate This Opener

    I disagree with maverick on the first line. It isn't a strong opener, but it's not exactly weak either. just be prepared for some massive b1tch shields.

    Asking them to describe the perfect man is a cool question i think. It could definitely be useful for building deep rapport as it focuses on relationships and feelings. As an opener though it could only best be used as a way to neg the hell out of your target. And I'm not sure if that's a good topic to neg.

    However, saying "i'll be back when I meet that criteria" is a terrible idea. Why would you want to say you are already not good enough/?!

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    Default Re: Rate This Opener

    5/10 but no walking away just challenge them and let them know your ideal women is better than their ideal man. Too much over qualification will give you whiplash plus only exit the Set if facing a obstacle you cannot overcome and then re-approach to handle the obstacle.
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
    Love is a game that's why I don't worry about it anymore. When you let go of your feelings you find your meaning.
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    Default Re: Rate This Opener

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mal View Post
    You're already over-thinking it.
    Just learn to be relaxed & non-outcome dependent.

    It's all about confidence, standing out & not giving a crap about what happens.
    I agree. Just having this attitude in General is 50% of the way . Sometimes I take it over board and need to remember to still be friendly while not giving a f*** if the girl walks.

    To the OP: Opener is not good since it conveys to the targets that you prefer to be their ideal man. Be your own man, don't agree with everything they say, don't disagree either just act unimpressed. Any opener that gets a friendly chat going is ideal, no need to hit on them directly.

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    Default Re: Rate This Opener

    nice response. its all about the confidence

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    Default Re: Rate This Opener

    You still have to continue the conversation after any opener no matter what it is. It's better just to do it with raw naked confidence. Also any guy who is consistently going up to women would not waste so much time and effort. If you went up to 20 girls a day doing that you would soon realise it's inefficient and you will still end up back at the point you have to continue the conversation forwards. If you used canned openers or 'Can I get your opinion?' you are putting on insecurity armour that shows you are weak underneath. Be Conan the barbarian.

    What Carnifex said is good advice. Almost every girl I approach I just get a friendly chat going and I'm not always straight away trying to get a number or date. Almost instantly you will get a vibe of whether they will engage or not. If they are not very responsive I move straight on to another target. If they are interactive and the conversation is good then I will ask for a number later, almost as an afterthought.


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