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    Default Re: Approaching Women in Clothing Stores

    Quote Originally Posted by artandale View Post
    Never go for the number just to get the number. Never ask for the number until their ioi's are screaming at you.
    I've approached girls in all sorts of situations, even if I don't know them or seen them before and simply asked their number. It's usually at a shop or somewhere awkward to talk. It doesn't matter if I hardly say a word. I don't care - it's about advertising potential. I will get judged on looks, confidence, attitude and my body language. The success rate of getting a number is about the same as if I tuned her for several minutes spinning yarns of conversation. Going straight up to a girl like that and asking a number requires big balls and unless you're ugly the girl will have to respond with some curiousity. She has to biologically consider the super confident mystery guy who has just demonstrated his superior genetic courage. Because he doesn't care how bold it is, he doesn't waste time, he's seen something within her that is appealling (what is it??) and he is not going to embarass her at work - there must be something worth investigating. I've dated many girls this way - it can be done. A guy who dates lots of girls and is comfortable around women does not need to waste time. Steps can often be bypassed completely.

    That said, doing what Xavier recommended is great advice as a cold approach (and good examples of not giving a fark). Also visiting the store with a female friend is helpful. A lot of times when walking into a clothes shop with a girlfriend the sales assistants give out huge IOI's. No matter what, you still have to get around to impressing the girl and getting the number/contact. There is no secret line or length of time needed - it's still down to your naked confidence, potential virtues and raw physical attractiveness.

    Here's the thing about cold appraoches though - I don't really ever do them unless they are genuine situations where I randomly meet a girl or I'm introduced to a girl through work or a friend. If you plan a cold approach you are essentially still engineering to get towards a conversation that leads to a number and hook up. Why bother? It's hiding away. It's much braver to just go up and say 'Hi I'm____, I don't want to bother you at work but I'd like to get your number' (You are demonstrating being courteous and forthright). If she says 'why?' say 'Because you look like an interesting person' (she has to qualify/prove that she really is interesting plus she already knows why all guys approach and therefore you must have done this and succeeded before - prequalification). If she tests you again 'how do you figure that?' you smile and say 'I can see it in the sparkle of your eyes' staring directly into her eyes with 100% conviction (you're subtley communicating she is beautiful, you can potential see into/protect her soul but also that YOU are the one with the intuition and intellect to recognise it in such a poetic way - YOU are actually the desirable one). If she is single and does not find you physically repulsive, she will have to have an emotional (possibly even heart melting) response to this. Who does that? No-one. You are unique and special. If she says 'no', she is either not single or you're probably never going to be her type anyway. It's just a number. You just smile say 'ok' and walk away into the sunset to the next target. Her loss. If she says 'yes, here's my number' you can build further attraction later via texting. Eitherway she will have to concede a number of things: you are confident, you are brave, you were polite and friendly whilst being cocky enough to directly ask the number, you were honest, you are unique, you are mysterious. They are all attractive virtues demonstrated without much verbose, time wasting or interference with work.

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    Default Re: Approaching Women in Clothing Stores

    Obviously ballsiness in how they react can lead to screaming ioi's... Cold number approach can work but likely if the girl is already attracted to you she will give her number willingly.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Approaching Women in Clothing Stores

    Quote Originally Posted by artandale View Post
    ...likely if the girl is already attracted to you she will give her number willingly.
    This is the key to pick up. In real life it happens within seconds. Online or if you've never met it still happens fast based on photos and initial conversation attitude. 'Run run run but you sure can't hide' UNKLE. You have to have utter confidence in yourself and be equally or more attractive to the girl to get her in most cases. You get that confidence by being good at what you do, by being smart, by looking the best you can. If you are really incredible at something else, physical looks are sometimes not as important (rocks stars, sporting heroes, rich businessmen) and you will naturally exude that successful attraction anyway.

    There was an intersting documentary where a group of like 5 girls and 5 guys were placed in a room and asked to partner up with who they wanted/thought was their suitable match. In almost every case the 10 out of 10s choose each other, the worst looking choose each other, most in the middle picked each other and the odd few left had their expectations dashed when they ended up with a 7 out of ten when they perhaps thought they were a 9 out of ten. A pyschologist beforehand estimated who would pick who and was 90% correct. Physical attraction and potential is obviously very important to men, but it's also very important to women - unless you can overide it with incredible talents or desirable signatures of power/wealth. Survival - reproduction.

    A lot of guys focus on 'what should I say?' or 'How to open?' thinking there is a magic word or system for everyone. The magic must be flowing through you and you must be realistic in who you are suitable for. The art then is how to act in a way that confirms your highest potential to as many cadidates as possible. I like direct approaches with 100% confidence and no blankets covering up my light to shine through. I turn on high beam.

    'I can't get every girl I want, but I get every girl that wants me' DLR

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    Default Re: Approaching Women in Clothing Stores

    I personally had get up to six Number Close from girls who work at clothing store.. what I figure out is when you had tight fundamental -- look sexy and carry yourself as a charismatic man, just go in for usual process and you will still close the deal.


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