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    Default Should you Cold Approach on Small Campuses?

    So everyone knows that cold approaching (daygame or nightgame) works, and there is typically nothing to lose by approaching that girl wherever you're at. This is because 1. you miss 100% of the shots you don't take 2. these people will likely never see you again and 3. even so, who cares what people think.

    The question is this though: if you go to a smallish college (say, 5000 students), is it worth it to approach girls in the commons. I ask this because it seems likely that after 50-100 approaches, you will run into the same girls or will be recognized as "that guy" who hits on women on the quad (that is, point 2 above isn't true). Might it be better to exercise social circle game, and try to get to know the cute girls in the sororities and go from there. If so, the question becomes: how do you meet these girls if you are already a few years out of school.

    Now this isn't exactly my own problem (I live in a mid-size city) but I remember living near a college campus and not being sure what to do. In the end, I just said "screw it" and approached everyone not caring if they recognized me or thought I was lame because I wasn't a student there. But I'm interested in hearing your guys' thoughts

    -Jkwan

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    Default Re: Should you Cold Approach on Small Campuses?

    gaming girls on campus is all about social proof. the way to get laid is to have tons of friends on campus. basically, women on campus usually want to hook up with the most popular guys on campus.

    I recommend you read the book "conquer your campus" (witch can be found online for free by google searching it)

    it will outline how to be loved by everyone on campus and how to use that popularity to get the best girls on campus.

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    Default Re: Should you Cold Approach on Small Campuses?

    Quote Originally Posted by jkwan23 View Post
    So everyone knows that cold approaching (daygame or nightgame) works, and there is typically nothing to lose by approaching that girl wherever you're at. This is because 1. you miss 100% of the shots you don't take 2. these people will likely never see you again and 3. even so, who cares what people think.

    The question is this though: if you go to a smallish college (say, 5000 students), is it worth it to approach girls in the commons. I ask this because it seems likely that after 50-100 approaches, you will run into the same girls or will be recognized as "that guy" who hits on women on the quad (that is, point 2 above isn't true). Might it be better to exercise social circle game, and try to get to know the cute girls in the sororities and go from there. If so, the question becomes: how do you meet these girls if you are already a few years out of school.

    Now this isn't exactly my own problem (I live in a mid-size city) but I remember living near a college campus and not being sure what to do. In the end, I just said "screw it" and approached everyone not caring if they recognized me or thought I was lame because I wasn't a student there. But I'm interested in hearing your guys' thoughts

    -Jkwan
    cold approach day game as traditionally done on a city street isn't cool to do in a closed environment like that. IF you do approach, you need to make it look completely natural and organic, accidental even.

    Meteora is right, read conquer your campus and concentrate on building a clique. What you need to do, more than anything else is to contribute something socially. Always be looking for ways to increase social value.

    If you are lucky enough to live close to a campus as a townie, cyc says the best way is to build a well known and always rocking "animal house". Like a kind of private club and throw house parties.

    One tactic is to start an underground organization based on something socially relevant, then identify the cool but socially disaffected kids and recruit them. A prime example is Charles Manson. What he did right was create a cult of personality around him using disaffected but entirely normal kids. Where he went wrong was using his cult for sick and twisted purposes.

    Sick as he is, the genius in him is the ability to identify with and ingratiate and recruit disaffected youths, even today in prison. I don't mean ugly losers or the totally social inept. Just vanilla kids looking for something social to belong to but may not fit the Greek mold.

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    Default Re: Should you Cold Approach on Small Campuses?

    That's what I expected you guys to say, and the author of cyc would likely agree. In fact, at the beginning of the book, he says:

    "Look, I don’t care how well you can approach a girl in a mall. If you’re not part of the right scene on campus, its going to limit you."

    Fair point, but I think it's overstated. There are plenty of cute girls who are not part of the party scene and actually want to be approached during the day. Furthermore, there are dozens of videos of those guys from SimplePickup approaching college girls on campus and getting numbers. Not sure exactly how old they are, but my guess is like 25--and they don't know anyone at those colleges.

    I think what CYC is trying to say is that typical PUA night-game (mystery method, lines and routines etc.) doesn't work as well, and I agree. But I'm not convinced that this should be taken to mean that approaching in general doesn't work, it just has to be calibrated a bit.

    Thoughts?

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    Default Re: Should you Cold Approach on Small Campuses?

    Quote Originally Posted by jkwan23 View Post
    That's what I expected you guys to say, and the author of cyc would likely agree. In fact, at the beginning of the book, he says:

    "Look, I don’t care how well you can approach a girl in a mall. If you’re not part of the right scene on campus, its going to limit you."

    Fair point, but I think it's overstated. There are plenty of cute girls who are not part of the party scene and actually want to be approached during the day. Furthermore, there are dozens of videos of those guys from SimplePickup approaching college girls on campus and getting numbers. Not sure exactly how old they are, but my guess is like 25--and they don't know anyone at those colleges.

    I think what CYC is trying to say is that typical PUA night-game (mystery method, lines and routines etc.) doesn't work as well, and I agree. But I'm not convinced that this should be taken to mean that approaching in general doesn't work, it just has to be calibrated a bit.

    Thoughts?
    Night game is night game. The problem is the massive amount of social proof a non greek guy has to acheive in order to score. It's like high school. I've been blown out for the most frivolous reasons mid game by leader chicks after they noticed me getting somewhere with a subordinate. I never game the leader chicks directly, to shielded. But to me a high 8 is just as good as a 9.

    I remember once I walked into a tiny little bar off the main campus club drag. I walked in and 4 blonde honeys in dresses were enjoying themselves at the bar. Not a man in the place but bartender and me.

    I went into instant game mode. I had the whole group eating out of my hand when suddenly the door opens and who walks in? The center four of the Miami Redhawks offensive front line. The girls literally erupted into the school cheer and that was it... blown out instantly.

    It isn't the technique that makes college girls so hard. It's the intense social pressures they are under to conform to a closed society and the need for the PUA to have a good solid reputation.

    Another time, I saw a group of girls in a club, and one was really cute just yummy but she was shy and had the look of scared rabbit. Well these girls go by me.single file and she's last in line. I reached out and literally stopped her in her tracks and her friends continued on without even noticing anything. I gamed her for a good 15 minutes and was bantering with her about getting her number when her friends realized.she wasn't with them. Oh they were pissed at her buddy. They snatched her up and berated her for leaving the group to talk to some random. I took offense to this and I had it out with this leader chick in the middle of club. She stormed out, cute girl by the hand looking.back at me.mouthing "sorry!"

    I was pissed lol.

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    Default Re: Should you Cold Approach on Small Campuses?

    Fair point, but I think it's overstated. There are plenty of cute girls who are not part of the party scene and actually want to be approached during the day. Furthermore, there are dozens of videos of those guys from SimplePickup approaching college girls on campus and getting numbers. Not sure exactly how old they are, but my guess is like 25--and they don't know anyone at those colleges.
    ah, but there is something you don't realize about "simple pickup" they are what I would call "approach artists" as in they go out with the sole goal of getting numbers and having fun. they aren't vultures who are out to get laid.

    sure lots of girls give them their numbers. as a matter of fact, I bet you could walk up to any girl on campus and just say:

    "I'm new here and looking for cool people to talk to, you seem pretty cool and if I had more time to talk we'd get to know each other, care to give me your number?"

    and I bet you that over 80 percent of the girls you approach would give you their number as long as you weren't too creepy.

    the fact is that college girls give their numbers out like candy at a parade. they are very interested in making new friends and expanding their social circles. thus getting numbers from college girls is not hard at all.

    witch leads me to my point, getting numbers is not the same as getting laid.

    I bet you that most of those guys from simple pickup don't even follow up with half of the numbers they get, let alone turn them into lays.

    social circle game is superior in that it often makes women want to hook up with you before they even meet you. having a reputation on campus is by far the easiest way for you to get laid.

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    Default Re: Should you Cold Approach on Small Campuses?

    This is a good discussion, we need more of these around here.

    So forget about which method is better for a second, let's ask how they might be interconnected. And I don't mean just "use social circle game for college girls but then use pickup when you are in the city." I'm thinking more like this:

    Say you go out during the day and get 10 numbers. Possibly, half of the girls will respond depending on how the interactions went. Out of those 5, maybe 2 were really into you and want to go on a date--so you make it happen, and are well on your way to getting laid (or forming a relationship etc.) with those two.

    Now, take the other 3. Perhaps they are in sororities and aren't going to sleep with some random guy they met on campus. So you text them about some party a fraternity is throwing or some chill pre-game that's going on, and tell them they should stop by. Here you have used daygame to increase your social circle.

    It then follows that good pickup skills are always helpful at some level. Guys who have the balls to approach random girls and say whatever are gonna have more success in general. But I think what cyc is saying is not "don't approach college girls" but rather "approach college girls in this way and with this Mindset."

    In other words, don't call random college girls cute--tell them you've seen them around and get to know them and their friends. But if you sense a girl is not involved with greek life or perhaps just works in the city, then you can calibrate and shift the interaction accordingly.

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    Default Re: Should you Cold Approach on Small Campuses?

    You should definitely called approach cold approach is extremely important and it will increase your idea of reality and expand your mind


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