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    Default Re: Tough Shit Test Response

    Could anyone help me or explain to me

    a) HOW to recognise a shit test?
    b) the best way to deal with them?

    a shit test guide would be absolute gold for me as I have seriously realised from this that I don't actually fully understand them and I am now realising this is a major sticking point for me!

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    Default Re: Tough Shit Test Response

    I don't think that was a shit test; her response looked genuine to me and probably a little angry. But who cares if she's angry?

    I kept running over the thing Mystery says that girls are not bitches and if you lose the girl it's your fault and not her fault - so i used that knowledge to structure my response. Apologies for the long post -
    I disagree with Mystery, he's never met Senator Dianne Feinstein before (she is diabolical). It is naive to believe that evil women, or bitches, don't exist.

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    Default Re: Tough Shit Test Response

    What was annoying was that she just wasn't biting with the banter and the fun interaction - are you saying that maybe the best thing to do would have been to just stop texting her?? - wait for a new day and start a new conversation thread? less is more for example?
    this is a "less is more" kind of situation and you already put in way too much effort. I would move on to greener pastures unless she decides to message you sometime (witch is highly doubtful)

    you will find that with online dating you will likely have to message a multitude of women to get very much success.

    idealy, I wouldn't waste much time on the ones who don't show immediate interest. think of it as a numbers game, and don't put much effort into any one girl.

    - maybe I should have just not responded......but then would that have looked low value?
    actually, I would say the opposite, not responding is a lot better option than sending her 200 texts only to find she's not interested (wich you probably could have assumed within 5-10 texts)

    also, not responding shows that you are unattached to the outcome.

    I have a habbit of not responding when girls send short texts, the ones who are interested will wait a few minutes and then send another text to restart the convo. this is extremely alpha of me and it keeps them chasing.


    Awesome thank you for the break down of each stage that has definitely explained A LOT to me - constructive criticism is something I strive on so this is great stuff and I will definitely be reading the book you mentioned.
    you're welcome. I'm glad to help a brotha out.


    So to clarify is this what I SHOULD have done when she fired the shit test at me??

    HB: Man up or don't drink so much!

    ME: Great.....you're fired!

    HB: Don't ask if you don't want the truth!

    ME: Wise words spoken like a true pro!! so what trouble are you getting yourself into today?

    ------> would this example have been a much better route to take the interaction???
    yes! this is a much better route to take the convo.

    I especially like that phrase "wise words spoken like a pro" (I may use that sometime)


    Everyday is a school day!!
    amen brotha!

    Could anyone help me or explain to me

    a) HOW to recognise a shit test?
    b) the best way to deal with them?
    ah, I will tell you how I deal with them, even though I'm sure there are other ways that may work better.

    a) I don't stop to recognize sh!t tests because doing so only slows down your reaction time that you should use to come up with a reply (especially when you're talking in person)

    b) the best way to deal with them is to stay non-reactive and avoid qualifying.

    the whole purpose of "sh!t tests" is to get you on the defensive. anytime you get defensive you lose.

    here are a few ways to keep from getting defensive

    1.you can be agreeable.

    for this you have to leave your ego at home.

    example.

    her: you're such a dork

    me: why yes, I'm such a dork I win medals at the dork Olympics. I thought I saw you there?

    (and notice that I also went on the offense here, the best defense is a good offense)

    2. go on attack

    this works best when you give playful inults (note: there's a big difference between teasing and bullying)

    example:
    (to a girlfriend)

    her: well aren't you lazy.

    me: you sure aren't doing your job, aren't you supposed to be making me a sandwich or something?

    this one is the trickier one to pull off, because you have to pull out a good tease off the top of your head before the moment is lost.

    3. get her to explain herself, and use this as an opportunity to change the subject.

    me: this one time some friends and I got really drunk...

    her: the only people who drink are liers and scumbags.

    me: what makes you think that?

    her: blah blah (about her abusive father who was a drunk)

    me: blah blah (relates with stories about my upbringing and how it could have been better)

    I personally like this style because it gives a good opportunity to build some extra comfort and possibly some deep comfort. it also gets her emotionally invested in the convo.

    now of course I use all three of these depending on the situation. the key is to stay in the moment and have a good imagination.

    especially with number one, you can say all kinds of bullshit and get away with it because you aren't taking yourself seriously.

    (be sure to read that book, wayne elise really covers my #1 approach quite well)

    I wish you the best,
    gotta head out, I gotz a date tonight

    METEORA

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    Default Re: Tough Shit Test Response

    Quote Originally Posted by artandale View Post
    Its a waste of time if you want an easy answer with no real effort. Every oppurtunity you have talking to a girl should be a lesson learned and a closer step to being a better communicator. Don't chicken out
    No, I agree totally with you. What I find is that (and totally my preference) is that I don't like feeling like I'm the only one trying to work the angles. It's much more rewarding to me to have the girl wanna go in a little with me then me constantly "fighting" and trying to "out maneuver" a b!tch shield. In the end, it's not rewarding for me, and all I learned are is that I don't like playing that angle.

    After all, I'm out for attention too, I don't like investing in something that doesn't make me feel good. lol

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    Default Re: Tough Shit Test Response

    Much appreciation for all the feedback on this fellas, especially from Meteora again on further clarifying a few things to me there and pointing out the way I SHOULD have handled it! that's hugely helpful for me!!

    Honestly when I posted this I actually thought I had done pretty well in my responses to her......until you shitheads came on and annihilated me!! hahahahaha!!

    To be fair after reading the feedback, it was starting to bug me because I thought I was making progress so it's good to get the constructive criticism and clarification on the correct way I should have handled it and I think I am starting to understand the concept now so this is definitely something I am going to be working on and be more aware of.

    I am sure I am gonna crash and burn many times over before it starts to click.....but that's what makes this thing fun right??

    women.......such sneaky little bitches!.......but I love them!!

    Bring on the next contestant!!


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