thanks for the advice fellas, i def. tweaked my game a bit from reading what yall posted. yeah Bill, i never really thought of what a strategy from an interaction, which is so stupid of me because everything i do in life im always intending to head towards an outcome i want and using a strategy to get there. I went out yesterday after reading the posts and listening to your audio link you posted Bill, as well as reading certain sections of david deida's superior man. and i felt waaay more in control of my interactions. I met alot of new friends and three chicks, it was a pretty funny night ill post in field report. Im goin out again tonight i wont add anything new, i want to get downpat of what ive taken from yesterday.