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Thread: Taking a new spin on the "Open" this year

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    Default Taking a new spin on the "Open" this year

    As most of you will know I believe very very strongly in the opener. Like so fvcking strongly I cannot even express into words.

    Anyway.

    --The Open--

    How many cold approaches have I made this year? 2
    How many warm approaches? 1
    How many openers? 15 (Yep you read that right. I have opened 3 girls on my own and been opened 12 times of being 2 HB9's and 2 HB10's)
    How many approaches will I make this year? 150
    How is this possible?
    Because I can pull 15 approaches in one night at the Bars IN ONE NIGHT that's 15 in one go! That's my record anyway yeah so I ain't worried and mostly chilling ignoring women while out at Bars. Some dude even asked me why I wasn't talking to girls and I told him I got skills. Then he tried to hookup me up with one of his girlfriends and I walked away! Because I love a fvcking challenge! Why I love 10's! Why I hate my Ex! She was too easy!

    Well first off I have been in the game for 3 years so I am more confident now and less insecure so more girls show interest due to my Outer Game (gym + tatts) and Inner Game of being used to talking to gorgeous women.

    So gorgeous women opening me doesn't scare me off it awakens my PUA resonance of how I would mid-game them it is just my Outer and Inner Game are starting to create something I don't know what yet. To examine I got hit on 0 times year 1 of PUA and last year hit on 3 times but to be hit on 12 times BEFORE Summer man I am onto something big this is just the beginning.

    Let me explain I am opening chicks who are approaching me! Talking to me! Asking me things! Hitting on me! So less work things are getting crazy. Why haven't I sarged yet? Well because of getting out of my last relationship, wanting a really hot chick, and having high standards that's why. So going around ignoring hot women has been driving them crazy and it is leading me to believe I may have to spice up my game to not only Sarging but to start out my nights trying to get hit on first. Here's why.


    It is the difference between either

    **No response and immediate ejection OR validation, phone number, and possibly more

    This part is very key to the interaction. Like for instance sometimes I stroll up acting confident and throwing my inhibitions to the wind (these are usually the really good ones aka warm ups or game winners) when I knock it out of the park and a huge long convo develops, we trade phone numbers, agree on a meetup, seed the hookup, and get kino, etc.

    OR

    She walks away.

    That is the difference of a good opener. So I opened an hot Asian chick wrong (Mostly go for white girls) and asked her to dance (she was very high value and I was approval seeking after killing it with a 10 and trying to get rid of Oneitis the wrong way). So she said nothing and walked away. A better opener is "Do you speak english" that might have got her going instead I was pretty much a douchebag and this was even after not following my own thoughts that night (I don't dance) I was telling girls this only to push and pull them but I actually dance really good so asking her to dance was just totally not in fvcking sequence anyway. The opener is fvcking huge okay.

    My opener is sometimes dry humping! Or kino! Or a look! I am getting that good.

    About Opening:
    Why is opening so neutrally important? Because girls can sense this state of smooth flow when you do open them in a "natural" situation it flows like fvcking butter no matter how hot she is. But if you are uncomfortable then talking to the dimepice is going to seem like breaking down Fort Knox!!

    How to Overcome aa
    At least deal the fact that every PUA gets AA. Every Spring when I am back on the market my AA is sky high. In fact my AA is so bad right now I have only done 2 approaches in 2 months of going out since March (still in warm up phase but it is over now I feel ready to sarge and plow), anyways mid-Summer I plow and sarge like a boss sometimes re-opening chicks 3-4 times to get the number (it works).

    All matters aside what I mean is this.

    I am an MPUA now. Coming from a guy who was dateless for a decade that means 10 years without a date!! To come from the creepy guy to leaning on my Outer Game is getting me numbers and things are opening up. I only game 9's and 10's this is a guy who couldn't close a 6!! Now I am 10 for 10 closing 9's and 3 for 4 closing 10's!! My last GF was a 9. Got 2 HB10's in my phone game rotation and friends with my Ex again so 3 girls in limbo.

    Now I am so good at opening (like I said a charmer) I have come up with a ton of super openers which I could share but I don't want to get off track. I wasn't ready to open. My game has been leveled up. Is it that I cannot approach?

    Oh NOOOOOOO

    It is that I only GO for 9's and 10's oh that's why.

    So in other words I don't warm up on 6's and 7's anymore. I did bone out on approaching some 9's and 10's my first few times going. But we just came off Winter and I take all Winter off so I was walking around telling chicks I was rusty which is not good for Inner Game and talking about my ex also not good.

    Now all that junk is out of my head after a stella couple of nights/days.

    So I have been going out and just capitalizing on what's there. Am I approaching? No. But I am taking advantage of women's advances. Girls will wink at me, wave to me, put their hands in my face, yell at me, holler at me, whistle at me, say things to me. So what am I doing going out Sarging? No but I am the Sarging king so when I am ready to plow I will plow.

    Anyway I think next time I go out I will plow. I have just finally realized how awesome natural game is. Girls who do these things Girls will wink at me, wave to me, put their hands in my face, yell at me, holler at me, whistle at me, say things to me I will consider be hitting on me.

    I used to ignore these behaviors as in always be the one picking and in control of who I meet now I wing it with chicks trying to get my attention and actually both the HB10's approached me!! Maybe that is why they are sooooo hesitant to get rid of me.


    So not only have I been getting hit on for 2 strait months I think I am finding new ways to game and new ways to open.

    For instance.

    My last killer opener on the last 10 was nothing. I walked over to some uggo chick that was waving at me (I would never touch her but I love attention and normally ignore ugly girls) BUT she was with an HB10 I missed sight of cause I was walking around kinda of stuck up and so she taps her friend and I say "Me are you pointing to me?" And she points to her friend, I stand there and her friend says "Holy Sh!t!" and immediately is trying to create something out of nothing.

    She was coming on to me SOOOO damn hard, like fvcking needy as hell. High fiving like crazy asking my name, my age, just IOI City. They were yelling at us to make out. So I was like WTF is going on I just walked over here and saw her rack and was like dang she has a killer bod and boom instant attraction!

    That was from my opener of stand there and say fvcking nothing. And to have the most validation ever given to me from one of the hardest to obtain targets of course getting her number was like candy.

    So the fvcking opener cannot be diminished. I thought hey I need to spice it up by using different words or whatever but now I am like dang words are so ineffective. Body language is way way more! So I may just start walking around trying to get some rather than "try to open them" this might just be the challenge I need. Back with the report soon!

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    Default Re: Taking a new spin on the "Open" this year

    Awesome information bro! Can't wait to read more about it. It's awesome learning material for the beginning pua's like me keep it up
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    Default Re: Taking a new spin on the "Open" this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    Awesome information bro! Can't wait to read more about it. It's awesome learning material for the beginning pua's like me keep it up
    Yeah this is kind of an advanced inner working of what's been going on. Still very early on in the process but come New Year's I should have a year round up of how everything went. My Game has skyrocketed I should have my best year yet and in fact should be in LTR territory come Next Year. We'll see I have a lot of field testing, sarging, dating, etc to do.

    Crazy how I hadn't gone on a date for an entire decade and meeting women at Churches (feasibly the best place) and found out Church was the worst place to meet them there cuz I got ex-communicated from that Church.

    To fast forward jump into game of going from dateless for a decade, getting kicked out of Churches, then getting blown out by 6's when I started. But I kept at it.

    3 years later.

    10's are approaching me!
    Had 9's as my Girlfriends.
    Will be dating 10's soon
    Got 2 girl text rotation and counting
    Hit on more times this year than all other years in the game

    Things have changed drastically and I am going to exploit these anomalies I am discovering in The Game. The 10's are telling me they want relationships though so I might start getting more serious at least not dumping a 10 come Winter since they are hard to get back. Will still go out to Bars and meet other women even if I do have a Girlfriend. A lot has changed from me unable to get a date to now having trouble deciding who I have time to date. Yes it is that bad. I dated 5 girls in 3 months last year. Hoping to up my game this year with more Pulls and SNL. We'll see I'll be back with the report!!
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