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Thread: Synyster's Nutella Opening

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    Default Synyster's Nutella Opening

    The Beginning

    Okay to preface this, this is something that came around when I was extremely bored of the standard openings and was at my wits end to think of something creative to say as a beginning that was different than anything else I've tried. So without further adieu...

    Peanut Butter vs Nutella

    I've personally used this as an opener on Tinder, POF, a few other less than noble sites, and in person. It's worked almost every single time on women that are real, as even I fall prey sometimes to the super-model bots with hope against hope they are real, but what can you do? Slave to the libido I guess. Anyways, the way I start the messages off has been the exact same time, every single time and it goes like this.

    "There's a war going on between Peanut Butter and Nutella. You must choose one side to fight for and you cannot switch sides once you've selected. So... who do you side with during the epic battle of savory condiments?"

    Pretty simple, but for some reason it works. Now the thing I will say is that it took me a few tries to keep the conversation going after the novelty of the approach wore off, usually the fourth or fifth message, or a few questions into a conversation. But what I found works as a way to segue into the next section is something like this.

    Whichever side they choose, pick the opposite. It's engaging and sets you apart, (even if you agree with them personally, pick the opposite), from the rest of the crowd. So let's say they pick Nutella, which I've found that 90 percent of European girls will do. Side note, I currently live in England, so I'm not exaggerating here with that. So here's a sample of one conversation I had.

    -Insert Opener Here-
    Her: "Nutella! I love Nutella!"
    Me: "...BUT... Peanut Butter is so much easier to spread!"
    Her: "Just cause something it's easier to spread doesn't make it better!"
    Me: "Sounds like good advice for dating if you ask me. Are you sure we're talking about condiments now?"
    Her: "LOL. So true. Never understand why guys go for the 'easy' girl. So gross."
    Me: "Hey now, easy girls need love too you know! Just not from me. I like a classy lady from time to time."
    Her: "What's your idea of classy then hmm?"

    Etcetera Ad Infinitum.

    Now if they pick peanut butter.

    Her: "Peanut butter obviously. Nutella is too sweet."
    Me: "But that's the best part! It's like dessert for breakfast. You're not one of those anti-dessert people are you..."
    Her: "No I love desserts, but Nutella is just... idk bleh!"
    Me: "Your defense is a little weak, but you're cute so I'll let it slide this time."
    Her: "Oh you will huh? Why just this time?"
    Me: "Could be something about a woman that's passionate about peanut butter without a real reason why. Makes me curious as to what else she could be passionate about, or with."
    Her: "I have a lot of passions, so you should be more specific."
    Me: "Really now? Well instead of me playing the guessing game, why don't you list off a few and I'll see if I should give you a pass for being a peanut butter lover. Who knows, you might sway me to fight for your side if you interest me enough."

    Again, etcetera ad infinitum.

    The key to the next stages to the conversation is to keep things light and playful. Don't outright insult them for their choice, as I may have done on the first few tries with the opener I created. Just skirt around it a bit, wiggle the worm a bit as it were, and let them take the bite. Once they do, hook them and reel them in. It's not too terribly difficult to do, but it might take a few tries to get it right. That's perfectly fine! This is all about trial and error, so learn what works for you and what doesn't.

    Now here's one last thing I'll leave you with. When you start to use this opener, keep things light, keep them playful, but escalate quickly. It's one thing to grab someones attention, especially online, but you need to move forwards at a decently quick pace to keep them interested. Make sure you have them fully hooked, and once you do, if you even SENSE that the conversation might start shifting into one word answers, back out. DON'T let them leave first. That's one way to let them control the flow of conversation. Don't let it happen. So if it starts to slow down, back out. Not ignore them completely, but back out of the convo with something like:

    "LOL, okay sweetheart/darling/love/sexy/gorgeous (etc), this has been a pretty fun conversation. Even if you're a -insert condiment- lover! I've got to go and meet up with some friends and do -insert fake activity here-. Have a good evening/morning and I'll hit you up later on."

    After that, just stop replying. Let them message you back, but don't reply. They might send you a few more, they might just let you be, but the key is that you've controlled the conversation, set the pace, got them interested, and then took the reigns and demonstrated higher value by not having time to text them endlessly or speak to them for hours on end. You've got stuff to do!

    All in all, I think it's a pretty solid opener, tons of fun to use and easy to get into the conversation with something silly. Now my challenge to everyone who reads this. Don't just use peanut butter or nutella. If you find something that works for you, whether it's ice cream or gelatto, or pizza vs hot wings, whatever you can think of and make work for you, POST IT! Spread your knowledge. I've sat on this one for too long and I'm a little upset that I didn't make it known, but I wanted to Field Test it exhaustively. And to further cement it's efficacy in my brain, I gave it to someone who has no idea about PUA's or anything of that kind. And he's currently dating a woman he met on Tinder using that line. Has been for 4 months now. So hopefully it helps you, in whatever venture you go on.

    -Synyster
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    Default Re: Synyster's Nutella Opening

    Pretty good my friend. Will try this one out from time to time...never hurts to expand my arsenal

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    Default Re: Synyster's Nutella Opening

    Hopefully it brings you the same amount of success it's brought me. although I should have included going for the Number Close at the end of the convo. Will update when I get home.

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    Default Re: Synyster's Nutella Opening

    Love this opener definitely something different. I'll be trying this one soon

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    Default Re: Synyster's Nutella Opening

    Good luck man! Found it works very well for online stuff. For in person convos you just have to change up the frame a bit. Not a necessity but its more organic if you do.

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    Default Re: Synyster's Nutella Opening

    Kudos!
    The whole interaction brings a fun vibe & it's totally engaging. THAT is how you get (and KEEP) a girl's attention.


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    Default Re: Synyster's Nutella Opening

    Exactly. I believe the more fun you have and the more fun you can make it for them then the more fun you'll have overall. Especially when it comes time to bump uglies. Thanks for the appreciation!
    "Women can fake orgasms, but men can fake love" - Bo Burnham

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    Default Re: Synyster's Nutella Opening

    Your style reminds me a lot of my own....
    I foresee plenty of melted panties in your future, young Padawan.


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    Default Re: Synyster's Nutella Opening

    Lol one can only hope! I have had some pretty successful gambits with this opener. Gonns be coming up with more in the near future but I'll only post after they've been experimented with.
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