I recently began improving my game significantly and was doing much better but I started honing in on the women I REALLY want which is the submissive (shy/nice) girls. My issue is that if I run game on them they think I am a playboy, have too much value for them or just get intimidated by how comfortable I am talking to multiple people/women (I assume because of their perceived lack of self value). I have found that pre-selection tends to turn these women off as well because they think they don't have a shot with me. I am SO confused because confident women eat that shit up!
The interactions tend to go sideways at qualification. This is normally what I do:
*banter for a few minutes until I get some positive body language/IOIs
Me: You seem like a really cool chick but I want to know what makes you interesting -
Me: Tell me three things about yourself that will surprise me
HB: Uhhh.....i dont know *blush*
Me: Banter with something like "No need to be shy, out of all the great women in here, I am talking to you so clearly there is something about you that makes you special. I am trying to figure out what it is (I know, I know...it shows some interest on my part but without it they always shut down)
Sometimes they are able to qualify themselves but they either shut down in sexual escalation (I have had them tell me that they aren't worthy of me a few times...which is ridiculous) or tell me that they find me intimidating and i get nowhere in rapport.
More confident women (which I do enjoy, but not as much) have zero issue with me and the game is always afoot (and quite fun) so I dont think it is my game or me in general. I think its something about these submissive girls.
Does this make sense?
If so, how can I modify my game to pick up these shy/submissive women?