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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    trying to be a billionaire
    is there any real point in owning that much money? (besides being able to say you're in the billionaires club?)

    I would generally just talk about myself and my business and I really don't care what think about anything.

    If the conversation doesn't lead to sex very quickly, it is pretty boring.

    Here's a conversation I had in bar the other week:

    Me: Can I bum a cigarette?
    Her: Will you buy me a shot?
    Me: No.

    I'm not going to sit there and pretend I care about what she's talking about or what she thinks. I have a business to run. I am trying to be a billionaire. I don't have time to talk about stupid shit. And, yes, the majority of what girls talk about is stupid shit and if you don't agree, then you are stupid. Like today at a bar, the girls are just singing along to the music. It's just ridiculously stupid to listen to them talk most of the time.
    it seems to me that you have no real conversational skills and just want to use your money to get sex. (your cheapest option for doing that is to find an escort) the only other kind of women who will use sex to get money from you are the kind who want you to pay their every living expense first.

    [QUOTE]"Me: Can I bum a cigarette?
    Her: Will you buy me a shot?
    Me: No"
    [QUOTE]

    negativity is the easiest way to burn any set. you had a prime opportunity to flirt.

    instead of no i would have responded with a "yes, but...(add any thing ridiculous here)" or you can be more creative and find a way to get her to give you a cigarette.

    example of something i might do.

    me: can i bum a cigarette?
    her: if you'll buy me a drink.
    me: how's about a friendly wager? if you can smoke a whole cigarette faster than i can, then i'll buy drinks for both of us, but if i win, you have to buy me a drink.
    her: (laughing at the stupidity of the wager)
    me: wait one second, have you got a cigarette i can use for the competition?
    her: we're not having this "competition" i see what you're up to.
    me: and for a second i almost had you.
    her: you're funny, i like that.
    me: so come drink with my friends and I.
    her: sure.


    as a pick up artist, you've got to find creative solutions to any roadblock that comes up. if you are a person who is rigid and factual about everything, you might want to reconsider your decision to be a pua.

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    But the girl wasn't hot. Other guys would have thought she was, but I didn't.

    It's hard to feign interest by coming up with witty comments.

    But yes, I do lack conversation skills sometimes. I am a bit of an introvert to say the least. I no longer drink so I can't use alcohol to reduce Approach Anxiety.

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    There are fewer than 2,000 people in the billionaires club, so it would be cool

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    Quote Originally Posted by redstar1324 View Post
    But the girl wasn't hot.
    I'm reading this and I'm thinking.. what the hell is wrong with this dude, he doesn't appreciate women what so ever, interacts with girls that he isn't attracted to in the hopes of having sex with them?.. why would you even try to have sex with an unattractive girl? You sir amaze me..

    but I'll get to the point - you're an introvert, you think girls are stupid, you have pretty much no conversational skills what so ever, you fake being interested in what they're saying.. All of this has a reason, and it's not because you're the greatest and everyone else is just rubbish, no. You sir give all the power to the girl when you interact with her, therefore she talks about what she wants, because you don't change the topic to a subject that is more appealing to you, you can have a great time talking to a girl just as much as talking to a guy, often times even more! Because you're an introvert you probably usually interact only with close friends who know you for a long time and they know what you like and what you don't, so obviously they are not going to be talking about something that you both like. Remember - the girl doesn't know you, and it's your job to be the man and LEAD the conversation instead of tagging along and faking receptivity, doesn't matter how good of an actor you think you are - the fact is that you won't show genuine interest in the girl and she will know that you're saying all that stuff and pretending to care about what she says in the hopes of getting something.. in your case - sex.

    Let yourself go, have a good time, don't focus on facts, be playful, be cocky, ask "why" questions (I like them a lot because you get to know the person a lot better and it shows more that you are genuinely interested in what they're saying) , try jerking-off before going sarging to not be so desperate for sex

    And about the how to build attraction question which you asked, I have very simple advice for you - if you want them to be interested in you, be interesting.

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    It's great that your goal in life is to become a rich douche bag ..... let us know how it works out for you !!!!!

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    Be interesting. I'm about to be very wealthy. I do things on a daily basis that you will never do in your whole life. Do you have a product on the shelves at CVS? I do. Do you represent yourself in court on tenant evictions? I do.

    There is so much wrong with what you just said, I don't even know where to start. Desperate for sex? I have turned down the last handful of opportunities at least.

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    You could never do it if you tried.

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    Quote Originally Posted by redstar1324 View Post
    Be interesting. I'm about to be very wealthy. I do things on a daily basis that you will never do in your whole life. Do you have a product on the shelves at CVS? I do. Do you represent yourself in court on tenant evictions? I do.

    There is so much wrong with what you just said, I don't even know where to start. Desperate for sex? I have turned down the last handful of opportunities at least.
    you're a funny little fella aren't ya, you know nothing about me yet you feel so sure about yourself, your arrogance amazes me, you could be the wealthiest person in the world and still be a boring AFC. You get a girl to be attracted to your money, not you. Buying her expensive things thinking that's "game" shame on you sir.

    And please, you said there's so much wrong with what I just said and you don't know where to start, the reason for that is because you couldn't nor end nor start to prove me I'm wrong so all you do.. trying to lower my value with your false accusations while presenting 0 solid facts to show that I'm in the wrong, your narcissistic point of views is not only going to affect your love life but also your business, where you'll think you're right and everyone else is wrong. I wish you nothing but a happy life (talking about your love life), yet you can't take the advice to achieve what you want because you love yourself too much to admit your mistakes.

    and yes my kind wealthy sir, you are desperate for sex - if you have to fake your interest in women and bore them to death talking about "stupid stuff" that she wants to talk about, in the hopes of getting sex - you're desperate. If you're trying to game an unattractive girl - you're desperate. If you're so empty inside that all a woman could every be attracted to is your money which you tend to flaunt - you're desperate, it is as if you got an ace up your sleeve and you think "hey if she doesn't like me for who I am, I can at least show her my wallet, maybe she'll like me then".

    This is all what you convey right now, you're on these forums because you obviously need guidance while you're on the path of becoming a PUA, yet for some unknown reason you fail to notice your own mistakes which can be your biggest downfall.. Notice your mistakes, analyze your game, see what works what doesn't given the information from the variety of successful and helpful PUA's on this site and believe me - your success with women will skyrocket, you won't even have to tell her in the first minutes of meeting that you're wealthy in-order to get her attracted to you, which I assume you tend to do a lot.

    for your own sake, I hope you won't let your big ego grow bigger than logical thinking,

    sincerely,

    -Alergy

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    Nobody is buying anyone anything. I don't even buy girls drinks. (although maybe I should start)... as far as being desperate for sex, maybe it's more like this... I'm only young once, I might as well try to have sex with as many people as possible. I'm not getting any younger. I'm not trying for a relationship, so what else would I be looking for?

    I wouldn't want someone to like me for the money, I'd want them to like me for the intelligence that got it.

    I'm not trying to be a "PUA," I'm trying to fuck (or do whatever) with a lot of girls.... is there a difference? and a lot of times when I go out, I don't even feel the desire all that much... depending on what particular girls are around....

    I've been with over 30 girls in my life. Adding to this number will not improve my life in any way other than just adding numbers, but at the same time... I wake up with a hard dick every day, so it's kind of just nature...

    And when I say I don't want to be a "PUA," that is because to me that brings to mind using corny pick up lines and manipulation and things like that. I'd rather just be honest and direct, but I'll lie if I have to. I'd even lie about having a ton of money if that's what worked. I have SOME.... it will be more later.... but I will lie and say that I have more than I actually have. I have no problem with that. The ends justifies the means if there is a hot girls mouth around your dick.

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    Default Re: How do I build attraction in conversation?

    I like your honesty, that you're not looking for a relationship and your only purpose with girls is to have sex with as many as possible, but being a PUA is much more than saying cheesy lines, it's a Mindset, inner-game if you will, yes - having text book "game" (saying memorized lines) will get you SOME results, but having strong inner-game will do you much better, and the best part about it - you don't have to memorize any lines and there's no need to say anything that you don't want to, it's rather knowing what to say, when to say it and how to say it with all the words and actions being yours, not someone else's pick-up routines and most importantly - being aware of women psychology. You shouldn't knock it till you try it


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