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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    I realize this is a necro post, but I haven't been a part of any regular community in a very long time and I have a few questions.

    My game was learned the old fashioned way, by adopting Tyler Durden's 25 points, gaining a basic understanding of Mystery's old method structure, gaining a solid understanding of female body language and attraction triggers, and then going out and making a fool of myself for a long time using trial and error in one of the most challenging environments that I could find. An upscale University campus scene notorious for its exclusivity to outsiders, along with the fact that I'm a full 10-15 years senior in age to the women I was picking up. I don't look my age at all so I could outright lie and claim to be a 27-28 yr old grad student.

    Basically I put myself through a lot of hell to learn what I term as "above average game" rather than true Pick up artistry. I never truly adopted any system, but instead developed an analytical form of natural game that mixes various parts of ALL systems into one form.

    After reading through this thread, alot of this system seems to come off to me as reading tea leaves. I don't want to say that the system doesn't work(all systems work when given a chance I believe) but it just comes across almost like reading a horoscope. Personality profiles and stuff, predicitions of how these personality types will interact with you and how to change your game accordingly. It just seems artificial compared to the older systems I learned under that sort relied more on teaching natural game skills.

    Is there REALLY something to this system and I'm just reading it wrong? Is there somewhere I can learn a bit about it because it does catch my interest in some ways. I keep an open mind about various systems because one can always glean bits of information from all systems and combine them into your game. I just feel uneasy with anything that tries to put such a complex thing into a "box" and I do not like to buy PUA products as I'm experienced enough to know the wheat from the chaff in most respects and I don't like to hand my hard earned money over to hustlers when I'm perfectly capable of learning most stuff based on free information over the net.

    This system does intrigue me a bit and I've read a lot of the posts in this thread but I'm still undecided that what seems to me to be an almost overly complex system. Is there an outline of how the basic system works, its attributes and what exactly it is supposed to give me in terms of techique and skill?

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    I can agree with you on 1 thing atleast. That it seems like a horoscoop. And I think it's also waaaaaaaaaaay to hard to remember all these things when going out.

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    Hell, this is some really interesting stuff.

    On the other hand, I have been together for 4 months with my girlfriend and I still can't categorize her I only know that she is an iNverstor, but still not sure about the other two lines.

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    Hi

    i had read the pandora box system, is very nice, it classified women easily, almost all hot girls on the 18-25 are TDI Playettes TJI Social Butterfly, its very cool, it was very helpful for me to understand the female mind, but i dont think that the pandora box system is perfect i prefer to say , that this system is more than a guide and a very helpful guide.

    i prefer to use other skills, but in my short experience i understand that women want this 5 things from a man:

    1) she wants to feel loved
    2) she wants to feel risk from the man, that he is so value that other girls wanted,
    3) she wants a men that is self-confident and make his own logical decisions by passing her tests
    4) she wants a MAN and also more one that is a CHALLENGE for her , that makes his own decisions and dont lose control over her, because if a man do or give all what a girl want , he is done.

    5) and the last thing they want, and i think is the most important is

    SOCIAL INTERACTIONS

    a man with social interactions is the one thing women find more value from a men


    thanks, this is my opinion , thank you to all the members and Bill , this FORUM will be so good for me and all the members , IM VERY HAPPY with this

    SALUDOS DESDE PANAMA ( HI FROM PANAMA)

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    Quote Originally Posted by crozz View Post
    I do not know how much more content there is in the Ph.D. videos, but it would make sense to really gather some more "signs" on how to classify girls. Asking directly is fine, but I still think it is better for some rapport before asking "do you normally only sleep with guys you like or is it no big deal for you?" and get an honest answer.

    One of my hypothesis: Good indicator if a girl is more J or D. If she does not like to be photographed she is much more likely a D. Especially if she is actually quite outgoing/flirty (T).

    hi my friend

    i have an strong theory about the pop quiz, to understand and decide correctly if she is a T or N , J or D obviusly I or R is the easiest one

    i think that the pop quiz doesnt work all the time, if you know a woman, also creating suceed with a lot of rapport, if she likes you so much or its a smart girl she will answer all the questions to sell herself as an perfect women

    the best way to recognize is a women is a T-N D-J , is reading body language and studing her actions, like if she talks with a lot of men is a T or use a lot her phone and wants to keep secrets is a T , D-J if she dress so hot is a J , and most important if she cant stand a lot of eye contact and justify her actions a lot she is a a T-J

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    Hi, Been stalking this forums for some time now and it was a huge eye opener. Shortly there after I came across this pandora's box system. I read and tried to master it in theory. But I somewhat fail in execution. Im really having problems determining a Tester vs Investor. Somehow, this girl I met has both dimensions aside from being a sure D/I. She very secretive and very withdrawn. She incredibly drawn to romance but doesn't show it. She is very warm if your are alone with her but distant if people are watching. The seems to have a history of having a nice guy courting her around 7 years ago but did not flourished. After that she consistently dates men "leading them on". When she tried pulling that stuff on me. I let her know I don't like that treatment so I made stand to not tolerate this. Her friends seems to vote for me, or at least I think so. I understand N and T is a fluid trait. I hope I can get a feedback on how to skillfully illicit this trait. Just want to understand her more and learn from this experience. Thanks in advance. This forum rocks!

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    You my friend are facing the playette, hopeful romantics never ever lead men on. maybe she was a iNvestor at a time but not anymore.
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
    _Xavier.

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    Thanks Xavier. Looks like I'm in for a challenge. Aside from her close friend who seem to be warming to me is a TJ I/R. Ill apply the strategy guide for TDI and see what happens. thx

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    Hey Guys I'm looking for more book and was wondering if this is any good would someone be able to send me a review on the book so I have a feel what it's like.

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    Default Re: Pandoras box system

    also guys will this work on my Ex-girlfriend as I truly want her back, but she has a new BF at the moment :/


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