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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    I guess the post is misunderstood. The concept is right though, the wording (or the title to be more specific), I guess, not.

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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    The idea of devalue, is so its easier to approach and also easier to detach before you loose your pride and dignity. A lot of guys these day are becoming more desperate, not letting it rest when the conversation is dying just keep trying until she is completely uninterested.

    The Statistics help with that by helping you realise she isn't the last chick out there and there is an actual abundance.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone1991 View Post
    4. This whole Feminism act is destroying the world we know, Women don’t want to cook or clean and walk around with this self-righteous Cinderella syndrome that men should slave over them when they do nothing, we understand our role as providers and protectors, and now we are expected to inherit other activities. Which is find but if gives them now right to believe just because they have a vagina they are better then YOU.
    I've met women like this and they are total b!tches. They are FAR from the majority however. Most women are supportive and really enjoy taking care of their man (as long as he doesn't turn into a total whipped b!tch). I love cooking for my girlfriends! Why? Because I'm good at it and they enjoy it. However; my past girlfriends always end up cooking way more for me. Why? Because I let them know how sexy they are, how much I enjoy/appreciate their food, and how it makes me feel when they cook for me. If you do this your girlfriend will cook for you to no end, and absolutely love it (even if she didn't like cooking beforehand)! Positive reinforcement always wins.

    Quote Originally Posted by mystique View Post
    Women should be adored, loved and fucked well. Men should be respected, supported and appreciated. End of.
    I couldn't have said it better myself. Women don't really ask for much. They aren't as "complicated" as many guys think. All you have to do is be a man and treat them like a human being. Not "devalue" them nor "overvalue" them.

    Quote Originally Posted by xavier View Post
    Everyone,

    I know what he meant by his post. He just wanted to tell men everywhere to stop being afraid of women because they are normal people and to stop supplicating to them, because eventhough "women want to be loved and adored and fucked well" nothing in life has value if it is not earned, and so women will not want to sleep with you or be in a relationship with you unless they felt like they did something to get it .
    My thoughts exactly after reading the post. The point of Tyrones post is to "devalue" women if you're one of those guys that "overvalues" women. Thus making them as valuable as you. The post would have been much less controversial if he said "don't overvalue women" which basically was the premise of the post. I think it was just poor word choice.

    The sad truth is that the majority of men overvalue women and put them above themselves when they are humans just like men. You shouldn't put women beneath you, or above you. They are just people.

    because eventhough "women want to be loved and adored and fucked well" nothing in life has value if it is not earned, and so women will not want to sleep with you or be in a relationship with you unless they felt like they did something to get it
    This is very true! However; to make a woman feel like she's earned it isn't as intensive as allot of guys think. Just the fact that you're a confident guy and you find her sexy is reason enough for you to want to sleep with her, and she earned that by keeping in shape and looking good. Once you've built rapport and you like her personality/sense of humor as well, and think it's superior to other women's, this is enough for her to "earn it". By being interested in taking things further, but not jumping head over heels into something without getting to now her better, is her "earning it".

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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    A neg Devalues a girl ...... just remember that.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone1991 View Post
    A neg Devalues a girl ...... just remember that.
    A girl maybe... A woman, no. Am I understanding you correctly Tyrone? Are you advocating men should devalue women yet expect respect in return? Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd love to clarify the logic here.

    Life (Energy in its purest form) just doesn't work that way unfortunately. Whatever and however you invest, you reap results. Example: A bad deal = bad 'fruit'. A good and fair deal = good fruit and peace of mind.

    Did you know that some women don't take negs to heart at all? They don't work. To me it just screams of insecurity and arrogance. Why would a man have to neg? Command (not demand) and show respect and you will have success.
    You will never do ANYTHING in this world without COURAGE. - Aristotle

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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    The whole point of it isn't for to take it to heart.

    It shouldn't even leave the Mans mouth. It a basic Concept to eliminate an obsession/Attachment and Anxiety.

    I don't walk around telling women There running out of eggs and better put out now. It is simply are mind state to eliminate the Anxiety of approach.

    Its to Devalue the Overvalued illusion your mind has created for this girl.

    If you read the whole thing you would note in it, this in know way was an attack on women and Ive just seen to much men Getting attached way too quickly.

    Im not sure if its a lack of Reading.
    A lack of understanding.
    Or a defensive nature to the words Devalue her.

    But most the guys on hear understood.

    Maybe you just have to be a man to understand this.

    This in know way was is meant to cause harm.

    As For negs - Its been apart of Pickup for ages, but it does help regardless of ethics.

    Command does not always work either - the situation depends on your target. they may be rebellious. They may not give a fuck.

    Every situation requires different situations to say the method you just suggested in full proof is pure ignorance.

    I Love the controversy this created. Showed me what PUA has turned into lol. Sensitive.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone1991 View Post
    The whole point of it isn't for to take it to heart.

    It shouldn't even leave the Mans mouth. It a basic Concept to eliminate an obsession/Attachment and Anxiety.

    I don't walk around telling women There running out of eggs and better put out now. It is simply are mind state to eliminate the Anxiety of approach.

    Its to Devalue the Overvalued illusion your mind has created for this girl.

    If you read the whole thing you would note in it, this in know way was an attack on women and Ive just seen to much men Getting attached way too quickly.

    Im not sure if its a lack of Reading.
    A lack of understanding.
    Or a defensive nature to the words Devalue her.

    But most the guys on hear understood.

    Maybe you just have to be a man to understand this.

    This in know way was is meant to cause harm.

    As For negs - Its been apart of Pickup for ages, but it does help regardless of ethics.

    Command does not always work either - the situation depends on your target. they may be rebellious. They may not give a fuck.

    Every situation requires different situations to say the method you just suggested in full proof is pure ignorance.

    I Love the controversy this created. Showed me what PUA has turned into lol. Sensitive.
    Lol all three actually. I wanted to clarify this for myself, young guys reading and anyone who believes negs work.

    Great to have it clarified. As you were.

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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone1991 View Post
    Maybe you just have to be a man to understand this.

    This in know way was is meant to cause harm.
    Exactly. I think most women will never understand the concept of neg as it naturally comes off as offensive to their nature. I do believe however that negs do work, but you have to be extremely careful with them as they can be easily misunderstood by girls and misused by boys.

    Sticking to the original topic, the message behing it is:

    - Don't over value girls" --> for those who already treat girls the same as normal human beings.

    - "Devalue them in your mind so that you treat them the same in Reality" --> for those who put girls on a pedestal (which constitutes more than 90% of all the men btw)

    Peace
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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    A lot of my best negs are unintentional...

    There have been bartenders who have recognized me and said "hi," and I had no idea who they were.

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    Default Re: Devalue Her Before Meeting Her - Tyrone1991

    Im glad that got cleared up lol.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.


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