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    Mystik is offline PUA Forums Respected Contributor
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    Default What is your opinion on opinion openers?

    Some PUA's recommend not using them while others don't seem to have a problem with them.

    Apparently the argument against them goes something like "they already know you want to talk to them when you approach them and asking for their opinion is just a cowardly way of showing interest." I admit it's very indirect and doesn't offer much excitement and could be seen as lame or land you in the friend zone but is there a right way and a wrong way to do them and how do you transition into something more interesting and build attraction after that? Or should they just be avoided altogether?

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    Default Re: What is your opinion on opinion openers?

    What is your opinion on opinion openers?
    lol. Nice headline.

    I think they work best in social circle game where you have to take care of your reputation also, in case you get rejected. You still have to show interest at some point, but it's better than saying "Hey I like you. Lets grab a coffee sometime" to your co-worker, getting rejected with "Sorry I have a bf/ I don't date my coworkers" and then facing her again next day. It's awkward as hell. Not to mention that she'll tell everyone in her circle that she rejected you (including her other co-workers).

    And you don't have to ask "Who lies more". Something genuine and funny could be interesting. A good way to use them, imo, is to ask opinion about something silly like

    "Do you think I look like a drug dealer?" or "Do you think I'm gay?"

    Not in the favour of excluding them all together, they still have their place.

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    Default Re: What is your opinion on opinion openers?

    Where I live (Vegas), I actually stopped using opinion openers because it seems that's pretty common here and a surprising amount of women are familiar with that tactic. I usually do a situational opener because most of the places I frequent have something going on that I can talk about, making most of my approaches pretty fluid. That said, if I force myself to follow the 3-second rule or I'm approaching a group, my fallback is usually an opinion opener.

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    Default Re: What is your opinion on opinion openers?

    Its all in the sub communications. If you open with a fun vibe behind it ('i.e. the question is interesting/funny to you, and your tonality/body language show it), then it will work in no problem. If you open with a need for their response, and you wait for them to answer and continue the conversation, it wont work.

    Either way, the girl will eventually have to know you have a dick (rather sooner than later), so why not start off the interaction man to woman and just go direct if you have no other idea for a creative line.

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    Default Re: What is your opinion on opinion openers?

    My personal opinion on opinion openers (love the headline man lol)

    It can be a canned line that can be delivered properly and work, but not nearly as often as genuine banner. That goes for anything canned though.

    If you are just starting out, yeah go for these canned things like opinion openers and little pickup lines. Focus in on your body language and sub communication skills, but be at least attempting to practice your bantering. Once you learn to banter, this skill set makes you seem smarter, cooler, and more attractive everywhere. It works to get people to like you at work, school, on the street, at starbucks, where the fuck ever you are it's an amazing skill to have.

    Alpha guys that are not in the club, just in everyday life (think like douchey doctors, loud bartenders, etc) will consistently try to test you especially if you have good body language and seem dominant. If you have your banter down, you will become more alpha and everyone around that here's your witty comebacks, sees you can think on your feet, and thinks you are a fucking badass.

    Here's a little line I used at work a couple days ago

    Sexy little colombian nurse I work with, I walk in and yell hello beautiful ladies to her and the other nurse. She goes "well this lady (points to alzheimers agitated type patient) said I'm ugly... so.." and I responded without a second of time between, I leaned over the counter and said "well looks like grandma needs to get her glasses script checked" and winked subtly. She fucking melted like chocolate.. I think the guy she was working with is trying to get with her as well because he got really close and weird after hearing me hit on her.. but didn't attempt to say anything because he knew what he was dealing with.

    Become a silver tongued bastard, and master your subcommunication. Get away from the training wheels of game also known as lines and opinion openers.
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