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    Default Thoughts on going direct.

    What needs to be done is Direct Game. Being congruent means "forcing the decision upon youself and her". It means cutting out the bullshit of a wavering and faint connection and deciding unilaterally this is the moment that things happen. Being direct is about being congruent to the primal essence that you feel for whats in front of you and confronting all the uncertainty in a single moment of profound clarity. Its about changing the very energy in the vicinity with your action. Your action is a light and it lights up both the world and every dark corner of your own being. The only way something so radical could ever be achieved or believed in for a moment is if one is completely letting go as well. Not responsive reactive to her and not chasing. This action signifies the nature of your nonreactivity. It signals a line drawn in the sand and as needy as you believe it is it is. According to that nature its power is diminished but direct action taken without the slightest hesitation, the slightest wavering, and ultimately letting the chips fall where they may, including your own response and further involvement. All of it is a toss up and your direct action is the die. No more blause attempts to weasle your way in. Just a blunt take it or leave it here I am all out in the open engaged to the fullest without remorse.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    You got the right idea and you've put allot more thought into it then I have. My thoughts are as follows "Oh damn! She's gorgeous. I want to talk to her." (walk over) "Hi. I want to get to know you. I'm Direct." Then have a conversation. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. If we have a good conversation I tell her what I like about her. It's really just being comfortable and thinking out loud. It's so powerful because women can tell you're just being you, your comfortable, and it's so rare.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    Thats not really direct imo. Just because you dont necessarily want to and it would take indirect ways to know someone, so its alluding to other things. I dont think being dirct is in the words at all i think its in your attitude energy and focus. You can say something direct but do it in a really indirect way and you can say something indirect and do it really direct.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gironon View Post
    Thats not really direct imo. Just because you dont necessarily want to and it would take indirect ways to know someone, so its alluding to other things. I dont think being dirct is in the words at all i think its in your attitude energy and focus. You can say something direct but do it in a really indirect way and you can say something indirect and do it really direct.
    That's pretty much what Direct was alluding to. Attitude - being comfortable within yourself. Then going in for the kill without stupid lines and manipulation lol

    I ponder on some of the manipulative techniques some guys use and think... wow, if he needs to use that stuff, he obviously isn't secure in himself/alpha.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    Im no more confident or alpha for going direct, and i also think its a form of manipulation although less discreet.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gironon View Post
    Thats not really direct imo. Just because you dont necessarily want to and it would take indirect ways to know someone, so its alluding to other things. I dont think being dirct is in the words at all i think its in your attitude energy and focus. You can say something direct but do it in a really indirect way and you can say something indirect and do it really direct.
    Body language and voice tone is always number one. Being direct is not using excuses to go for what you want. Period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gironon View Post
    Im no more confident or alpha for going direct, and i also think its a form of manipulation although less discreet.
    If you think it's a form of manipulation to state your intentions then what's your definition of manipulation? Is it manipulation for a man and a woman to have a mutually beneficial interaction? If you believe that men gain more out of an interaction I could see how that could be manipulation (although I strongly disagree with that idea). If you believe that anything anybody does in life is some sort of manipulation, then yes it would be considered manipulation. Intellectuals have argued this point in the past, and I can see the arguments for and against it.

    I believe that men and women benefit the same from sexual relationships. Therefor being open, honest, and direct is not manipulation in my book.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    I believe they benefit as well. Yet the methods can be manipulative, if coming from the desire to achieve a specific result.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gironon View Post
    I believe they benefit as well. Yet the methods can be manipulative, if coming from the desire to achieve a specific result.
    This is truth. Motive is the only indicator but most of us lie to ourselves.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    What if the guy is honest in his intentions but chooses to approach indirectly just because, in his mind, he thinks this is the "right way"? Would that be manipulation also?

    It's just like you want to point out someone for doing something incorrectly, but instead of telling him directly that "You suck" you just choose to be more polite.

    Actually most guys, imo, who approach indirectly are motivated by lack of confidence to go direct rather than with the intentions of manipulating someone, though it comes off as manipulative I guess. So in their mind at least they are still being honest.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on going direct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam981 View Post
    What if the guy is honest in his intentions but chooses to approach indirectly just because, in his mind, he thinks this is the "right way"? Would that be manipulation also?

    It's just like you want to point out someone for doing something incorrectly, but instead of telling him directly that "You suck" you just choose to be more polite.

    Actually most guys, imo, who approach indirectly are motivated by lack of confidence to go direct rather than with the intentions of manipulating someone, though it comes off as manipulative I guess. So in their mind at least they are still being honest.
    That would come back to what his intentions are. What is the driving motive? Is it to add to someone or detract for one's own benefit? (I try to ask myself: Helpful or Hindrance?) Being honest with oneself involves asking these types of questions. Although it does pay to remember one can justify doing anything one really wants to do. That's where accountability partners/mentors are essential to make any real change. However, I digress...


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