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    Default Bootcamp Reviews

    You guys know that used to promote Gambler & Adam Lyons PUA Training Boot Camps... so I want to know what the guys who have taken these have experienced (good and bad).

    I also want to know other PUA bootcamp experiences/results (good and bad).

    I firmly believe that the single best way to get better with women is to be in the field with guys who are better than you. Now for some guys that can mean being out with guys who are naturals (and are willing to share what they are doing that works, and also critique what the guys they are teaching are doing wrong). The good news, this is what happens in a bootcamp (well any bootcamp worth it's salt).

    So let's hear it guys.

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    Default Re: Bootcamp Reviews

    I booked a bootcamp with Gambler. I've read very bad reviews so far and i'm kinda worried that my money is going to waste.

    I'll give a full review when I'm back from it. If anyone has any information on the bootcamp please share

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    Arrow Re: Bootcamp Reviews

    Why these dudes over others bill? Just curious as I have also read negative reviews.

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    Default Re: Bootcamp Reviews

    That post is from 2010... I have other boot camps I think are the best now.

    PM me for more.

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    Default Re: Bootcamp Reviews

    Hi guys

    I'm somewhat disappointing by the bootcamp with Adam Lyons (Gambler's boot camp from PUA Training). It was inconsistent and didn't meet neither my expectations nor my needs. By "inconsistent" I mean that theory and practice didn't seem to match at any level and that practice was not very useful. There was so much talk and advice on lifestyle which I simply didnt' find useful or applicable at this point in my life. My lifestyle is set and the trainers teachings were very specific to his own lifestyle. Each of the trainers had a different style of game but that was not so much of a problem as much as the fact that all they did was push us to approach rather than approaching sets together so they could actually see us in field and give us some quality feedback on the overall approach. My sticking point which was to make quality conversations with girls and actually being able to get the conversation somewhere (like a Number Close) was not met nor practiced on and therefore i really felt that this event didn't offer me much besides meeting some nice people.

    I have requested a refund for three days now but I've yet to received the response. I really hope the refund offer was not marketing bullcrap as I really struggled to gather this money and really need it back.

    For any more information please go ahead and ask

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    Ok guys

    Just informing everyone that the "money back guarantee" they're offering is a spoof as they told me straight forward that they have no intention of giving me my money back.

    I asked them why the hell are they offering a money back guarantee if they're not in a position to give it as it makes them completely unreliable and customers feel lied to and manipulated to spend their money to which of course I have received no response and I doubt I will. I don't really care anyway they're getting dodgy since the day I asked for that refund.

    EVERYONE GOING TO GAMBLER'S bootcamp BE WARNED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain1984 View Post
    Ok guys

    Just informing everyone that the "money back guarantee" they're offering is a spoof as they told me straight forward that they have no intention of giving me my money back.

    I asked them why the hell are they offering a money back guarantee if they're not in a position to give it as it makes them completely unreliable and customers feel lied to and manipulated to spend their money to which of course I have received no response and I doubt I will. I don't really care anyway they're getting dodgy since the day I asked for that refund.

    EVERYONE GOING TO GAMBLER'S bootcamp BE WARNED
    I think if they did follow through with that moneyback guarantee, they would be getting a ton of freebies and they wouldn't make any money at all. Sorry to tell ya, but there are people who will take advantage of the system if it is set up incorrectly.

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    Default Re: Bootcamp Reviews

    So I just took a two-day bootcamp with a coach in Prague.

    I think Matt has a philosophy on game that is simple, effective and 'mature'. He is also a kind and generous person. He did some sample approaches which really impressed me. Hahaha the look on the faces of some construction workers when he chatted up some hot young chick and got her number

    After this bootcamp I feel I have learned a lot, I can really recommend this. Before I felt that I didnt know if daygame was something I could picture myself doing, after this it feels like a natural thing ... something you really SHOULD do

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    I've taken two bootcamps, the first I paid almost $3,000 for and it was with a big name company. I can't say who they are because when I got a refund for it (they gave back 80% of the fee) I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

    The big difference was the lecture wasn't just him talking, it was him having us role play and practice 80% of the time which really made it easy to learn. Then he would actually do exactly what he taught us in field on super hot girls and it worked. Most other instructors teach one thing then do something else or worse I've heard of some instructors who don't demo at all. I saw Johnny open 3 sets and make out with the hottest girl in the club. The rest of the night he just helped the students. That's another good thing. I've heard of some instructors who ditch you to get laid themselves. I'm sure Johnny could have left with that girl he was making out with but he genuinely seemed like he was happier helping out the students and getting us laid! Well I didn't get laid but two other students did and seeing that made me believe it was possible. The good thing is I met a girl during the bootcamp and ended up hooking up with her two weeks later.

    It works. I'm sorry for everyone else that had bad experiences with other companies. Do your research before you go. And feel free to ask me any questions about my experience. I'm happy to help.

    [Moderator Note:] I am actually Johnny Wolf trying to promote my own bootcamps. Unfortunately, if they were that good - I wouldn't have to promote them myself.

    FAIL.

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    Default Re: Bootcamp Reviews

    I took two Love Systems bootcamps: Night game with Fader, and day game with Nick

    Before joining the bootcamps, I was able to approach and transition. After doing the bootcamps, I did not get any further. More than a hundred approaches: no numbers, no dates

    Even though they have a refund policy, they will find some reason to not give refund. I did not get any refund for the bootcamps

    You can buy better theory online, than anything they give in class. If you work on it with a friend or find a wingman, you can more than make up for infield

    I have wasted more than 5 grand in the two LS bootcamps. I feel terrible. If I can stop you, than I will feel at least a little better

    It is very frustrating when you are bad with women, but that does not mean you should buy snake oil


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