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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Man i still havent gotten the whole program! Gotta see where i can get it lol.

    So how about NDR for this one...

    - dad passed away. Single parent family.
    - college educated. Good job.
    - never has time always running around
    - few close friends, mostly female
    - religious upbringing so conservative (at least she tries to be)
    - flashy sexy dresser ... super short if that helps lol

    Im havin fun with this. Thanks for the info!
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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Why haven't u got the full one yet?
    -NO the NDR never wears flashy short sexy things.
    -even if her close friends are female that doesn't always mean she's an investor.
    -Dig deeper, as in ask her more questions.
    I personally think u got urself the NJR

    Get it here:
    http://www.puaforums.com/pandora/
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Thanks X.

    - havent gotten it because cant afford
    - too big. Never find time
    - thought there was an ebook which i prefer but apparently not
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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Had to finally give u a like for your last post X... becuase i found out u were right. Girl was keeping multiple guys hanging around for attention. Dont think she was sexing many (i froze her out months ago) but she seems to fit NJR just like u said.

    She ended up settling for a shallow guy with horrible game lol. I would laugh when i would hear him disqualify himself. But she ended up with him lol. Good thing i was on Freeze Out already because if she fell for his "charms" then she is NOT my type.

    Anyway, good job once again bro!
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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Quote Originally Posted by TeeJayRaccoon View Post
    Yeah hello there guys.

    After getting familiar with this whole "cold-reading" thing i decided to try it out on this girl I've been dating for a while now.

    and either i was a complete tool or she forcefully wanted to be seen as something she is not. It's about the Realist/Idealist part right?

    I think that she tended to be an Idealist because of several reasons:

    ...

    So i went with "Hey as i see it you are 'insert above statements' and so I'd guess you'd be quite the Idealist"

    She immediately responded with "I see myself more as a Realist" and countered with "What would make you think I am an Idealist"

    So i was kind of dumbstruck and lost there and responded with "well sorry that's how i saw it." and obviously made the terrible mistake of explaining why I'd thought that would be true.

    So now She responded with "well we seem to have different kind of views there"

    Dead end here. I never intended to give the impression of having that viewpoint rather than stating i thought that might be the case.

    what do?
    Dude, you blew it only because you THOUGHT you blew it.
    1st of all, it seems as if you assumed she had read pandora's box and you were both talking about the same thing when using the words "Idealist," or "Realist." Those words mean so many things to different ppl, and in different contexts, your conversation was meaningless without defining your terms.
    For that very reason, you had a perfect "out," when you missed.
    When you miss in a cold read, instead of hitting something spot on, you don't just sit there as if you had wagered $1000 on being right. Unless you're entire game plan is making her wet by believing you're psychic, it makes little difference whether you were accurate. Making a guess or statement is always more manly than simply interviewing her, "Where are you from?" "What do you do?" "How long have you lived here?" which is what most men do.
    If you say, "You strike me as a creative person," and she says, "Ha! I don't have a creative bone in my body. Why do you think that?"
    You are still WAY more attractive than most men.
    She is now curious about what you think about her. She's a bit invested in you. You saw something in her instead of a body.

    All you had to say was, "Well, when I say 'idealist,' I mean something a little different from most people when they say that. I really think most cynics and so-called "realists" are idealists in disguise. The very reason you become a "realist" is because deep down, you have this picture of an ideal world, and you're afraid it might remain only a fantasy...you still have hope in your heart but you're embarrassed about it or you're afraid of clinging to it, so that you won't be disappointed..."

    I just typed that off the cuff.

    Or you could simply not be so obsessed about being right, and instead change your Mindset to being "curious." You could say, "Interesting...I find that so rare in this city. All the girls here seem to be naive idealists with their head in the clouds. It's always a pleasant surprise when I encounter someone with both feet planted on solid ground in this city. How do you explain why your different?"

    And remember, when you use the word "idealist," or "realist," she is NOT hearing what you're trying to say. She doesn't read pua material. Look up the definitions of those words before using them in conversation, or else you'll both be talking about different things. Some girls hear "realist" and hear "pessimist," for example.

    I suggest you do NOT use those exact words at all. Just understand what they mean, and gather what you can from the girl. She won't tell you, "I'm a TDR."

    P.S. To the OP, thank you for copying and pasting Vin Dicarlo's ebook "Advanced Cold Reads." I personally can't stand Vinny "the mouse" Dicarlo, so your contribution is appreciated.

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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Nice Brainbuster!

    I too used to be hung up on exact wording when trying to use any pick up stuff. You're totally right about knowing what words actually mean lol. What's cool though is that women love explaining themselves so if u say idealist, she will have fun just defining it or talking about why/how you guys differ on it.

    Oh and I often explain Pua terms to HB's as a psych term. That way helps get them used to hearing it. Like one time I told a woman that this other girl where we were at totally craves validation. And then she asked me what that is. I told her it's from psych(which it is lol). She totally got it and we discussed what she is. Worked pretty well.
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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    It's fascinating reading this from a female perspective... I happened across this while watching a little Hentai and was curious to see what made the creators of this program so adamant that it works. I even went so far as to take the 'What type of girl is she?' test for myself and discovered that I am apparently 'The Private Dancer' or TDR.

    Reading the description after the quiz (on 3questionsgetthegirl) I found myself surprised at just how accurate it was. The system guessed my preferences perfectly. This got me rationalizing that, like any personality quiz, the outcome seems similar to what we expect to read based on the answers we choose as well as our own perceptions of ourselves and therefore seems accurate. However, upon reading the detailed method for 'cold reading' in this thread, I can only conclude that the creator of the system clearly knows his stuff.

    While I won't be dropping my panties in a heartbeat for any man (although because of my 'denier' attribute, that could just be due to my supposed nature) who tells me he wants to cook with me because we can 'make something really good together', I can also see how it would be effective in making a man seem more understanding and therefore more attractive.

    So, from a woman who knows the 'big secret'; will this system work? Maybe... Although probably more for men who just want meaningless sex. Maybe this tool could be used as a way to get her interested, but if you want to keep her, really take the time to know her because if she's anything like me... she'll smell your bullshit sooner rather than later.

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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Shut up, Steelkat. We all know that you're Vinny.

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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Hei guys, you pandoras box experienced or not. I need your help, just something little.

    Talking about Justifier.
    "And if youíre dating a Justifier Ė you have to be extremely vigilant.
    Justifiers love to test your limits (donít confuse this with the testing
    dimension, Iím talking about testing YOU) but a Justifier will test you over
    and over to see how much of a man you are. You need to be VERY aware
    of these tests so that you can nip them in the bud by punishing them
    IMMEDATELY."

    Help me on this:
    How do you punish the girl? please give me examples. I have failed on this before. I don't want to do it again. For some of you it can be very simple, for others isn't..

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    Default Re: Cold reading and pandoras box

    Can you give answers on what to do or say for the seductress


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