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    Default How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    My biggest obstacle when approaching is probably my concern that they will be unresponsive(ie ignore me completely)or be rude. I've had both happen in the past. I would just like to know the best way to handle it. I don't believe just walking away and moving to the next one is good for two reasons. One other women in the bar or club will see that and assume she blew you off and that in their mind means you have low value. The second reason is it's not very alpha. You couldn't handle her so you just took the easy way out and walked away. I admit that at some point you need to self eject but not right away. So I would like to know how to tease her for being unresponsive and examples of things to say if she is rude or unresponsive. I do have a few in mind(that I have not actually tested) but what would like to hear others. I would like to know which ones work the best. Thanks.

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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    Mystik,

    Many times women at the bar have put up a shield because so many guys have hit on them that night. I worked as a bouncer and saw so many desperate guys even standing by the bathroom doors to get girls as they come out... like a fly trap.

    From a female's perspective, they see bar guys as just trying to get laid and use them, so they naturally put that shield up. Stick in the set for a bit longer and show her that you aren't one of those weird guys just trying to pick her up and manipulate her, and they slowly tend to let their guards down a bit. Show her you genuinely don't care if you get laid or not, are there for fun, and a normal human being and this will help you immensely.

    As far as guys being rude to you, just smiling and giving value will go a loonnnggg way to undo that sour asshole. Compliment him on his shoe choice, genuinely, or how awesome his game is. This tends to take the guard way down.

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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    [As far as guys being rude to you, just smiling and giving value will go a loonnnggg way to undo that sour asshole. Compliment him on his shoe choice, genuinely, or how awesome his game is. This tends to take the guard way down.]

    I didn't say anything about guys. I was referring to women(girls)being rude. I just wanted to know how to best deal with rude behavior or what to say if she goes totally quiet and doesn't respond at all(or says very, very little(ie not enough to build off of)).

    Since you brought up guys(AMOG)I guess the best way to deal with them is just ignore them. I also don't think it's ok to smile at another man. It's been said that the beta male monkey smiles at the alpha male monkey to show that he's not a threat. That's definitely not the kind of signal you want to give to other males.

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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    First off you are going to encounter a fair amount of rudeness and mean girls along the way. I don't get ignored anymore because I have become the Alpha Male but I didn't start that way. In fact I was AFC and very Beta but that's an old wive's tale now. My last pickup was an HB10 and I fended her off from the wolf pack. Complete reversal where I used to be.


    You approach girl is rude...
    Eject


    and 5-10 min later Re-approach with NEW opener


    Rude again....
    Eject


    Sometimes I have approached a girl 2-4 times before she finally warmed up to me and wanted to talk to me.


    I have approached and been told


    Fvck off
    I'm a Lesbian
    It's Girl Night
    etc


    But I barreled through it and sometimes they warm up sometimes they don't sometimes you eject and re-approach sometimes you stick through it until she stops being a b!tch.


    In other words obey your instects. Starting out I was rejected by a lot. Now some nights I find myself rejecting more girls coming on to me than me going for them.


    Some girl will ask me in the bar to kiss her or whatever and I won't because I am not in the mood

    So normally I go up to a girl who is rude and ignore it or back track and come back later with something better to say. This return often times warms us up to each other.


    I usually don't tease if they are rude. Never needed to but it sounds like a good idea. Let you know how it goes.


    Go up to them and if they are rude do what I do, be rude in return. A favor for a favor. Now girls know I have attitude so it is harder for them to do so because I am mostly Alpha as fvck they don't really fvck with me.


    As far as dudes are concerned I say bros before broads. I don't try to steal a dude's girl unless he is not around or below my Alpha instincts.
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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    What lifestylebible says is right. That shield is called the Bitch Shield. That's why disqualifiers were invented. That is exactly the medicine you're looking for. There's lists of disqualifiers all over the site and the internet. Some one's I like are "I only date black/white/hispanic/etc. women," whatever they are not. Or something simpler like "You look like you're too much trouble (or too nice). We won't get along." Anything that let's her know you aren't hitting on her and will take that shield down.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by JackSarge View Post
    First off you are going to encounter a fair amount of rudeness and mean girls along the way. I don't get ignored anymore because I have become the Alpha Male but I didn't start that way. In fact I was AFC and very Beta but that's an old wive's tale now. My last pickup was an HB10 and I fended her off from the wolf pack. Complete reversal where I used to be.


    You approach girl is rude...
    Eject


    and 5-10 min later Re-approach with NEW opener


    Rude again....
    Eject


    Sometimes I have approached a girl 2-4 times before she finally warmed up to me and wanted to talk to me.


    I have approached and been told


    Fvck off
    I'm a Lesbian
    It's Girl Night
    etc


    But I barreled through it and sometimes they warm up sometimes they don't sometimes you eject and re-approach sometimes you stick through it until she stops being a b!tch.


    In other words obey your instects. Starting out I was rejected by a lot. Now some nights I find myself rejecting more girls coming on to me than me going for them.


    Some girl will ask me in the bar to kiss her or whatever and I won't because I am not in the mood

    So normally I go up to a girl who is rude and ignore it or back track and come back later with something better to say. This return often times warms us up to each other.


    I usually don't tease if they are rude. Never needed to but it sounds like a good idea. Let you know how it goes.


    Go up to them and if they are rude do what I do, be rude in return. A favor for a favor. Now girls know I have attitude so it is harder for them to do so because I am mostly Alpha as fvck they don't really fvck with me.


    As far as dudes are concerned I say bros before broads. I don't try to steal a dude's girl unless he is not around or below my Alpha instincts.
    I would like for you to show pictures of all these HB9's and 10's you talk about.

    You could upload them to Dropbox and post a link. Nothing immoral about that.

    To the rest of the post...

    Mystik - tell them to fuck themselves... But anger can get you put in jail, so be careful... Sucks that way...

    Lifestyle - why would he want to PRETEND he's not "one of those guys out to get laid?" Isn't that exactly what he is? Any girl worth a damn would understand that.

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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    What lifestylebible says is right. That shield is called the Bitch Shield. That's why disqualifiers were invented. That is exactly the medicine you're looking for. There's lists of disqualifiers all over the site and the internet. Some one's I like are "I only date black/white/hispanic/etc. women," whatever they are not. Or something simpler like "You look like you're too much trouble (or too nice). We won't get along." Anything that let's her know you aren't hitting on her and will take that shield down.
    Games, games, games and more games...

    Why stoop to that level? That fakeness will only last for 5 seconds.

    Mark Manson says be honest.

    Are you gonna get a Spanish girl by telling her you don't like Spanish girls?

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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    Tell them to f themselves but it will get me put in jail. Good advice. LOL. I guess maybe say it in a joking way if that's possible(I don't think it is). Maybe something like "Well, if I was rude I would tell you to go f yourself but I'm not so I'll just ignore your childish girly behavior."

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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    Fake it til you make it brother. And this whole thing is a game if you haven't noticed. Now, don't interpret seeing it as a game that it shouldn't be taken seriously. On the contrary in fact. When I say it's a game it's because it obeys a lot of rules similar to a game. There are points allocated and there are winners and losers just like a game. And I don't know who Mark Manson is, but his word is not the final word let alone doctrine. No one's is. If his style works for you that's great, but as you continue your journey you may realize a lot of people have something valuable to say and taking all your advice from one source may not be the best route.

    And yes I've gotten Spanish girls by saying I don't date Spanish girls. And I love games. ^_^
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    Default Re: How to respond to rude or unresponsive women when approaching

    Telling someone to go f themselves will NOT land you in jail lol. It is NOT illegal to tell someone to go f themselves (only if is escalates after. Like into a fight. But again, fighting doesn't guarantee jail time) so be weary of this fellows advice. Maybe he should get from in front of the computer and engage in real life scenarios.
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