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    Default Re: How do you begin sex talk in a smooth way?

    That is the beauty of Kino. It is ALWAYS welcome. Unless a girl is SUPER jumpy and weird, and you will want to pass on her if this is the case anyway. It is human touch. Human connection. Something we ALL crave. Now, on the flip side, nothing is more sacred to a woman than her body: Her physical self. Especially when it comes to a man she does not know, or has not built up a level of comfort and acceptance. Here is where the "Trick" of Kino comes in. You touch innocently on the arm or shoulder, heck even a brief back hand to the tummy. The key is to be casual, not be creepy, and make the touch brief. You touch her for a moment, and remove it. Before she can complain about it. Before it raises a red flag in her head. You are building physical compliance. Once you touch her once, you can do it again, and again. Now if you are talking to her, and you of course are, you have asked her a question. When she answers, you have just gotten VERBAL compliance. She is responding verbally to you. The last piece of the compliance trifecta is Logistical compliance. This can be as easy as putting both hands on her shoulders, and physically moving her a few steps to the left. Say a light is hitting you in the eye, and you need her to move. Or, take her by the hand and lead her somewhere. This after first doing some Kino touch.

    Compliance and Consistency go hand in hand.

    Compliance:
    Physical Kino Touching her
    Verbal She is responding to you verbally.
    Logistical You have literally moved her in some fashion

    Why is any of this important. Because once you have established compliance, it is easier for her to CONTINUE to comply with your requests. And that is what you want. Her complying with your requests.

    So what is Consistency? It is a trick. You are going to suggest to her how YOU want HER to be. Tell her, I thought so. You look like a really fun and adventurous person. Are you fun and adventurous? This is pretty innocent. You do this after you have been talking and Kino-ing for a bit. Remember Kino will relax her, and her guard will be down. Then this psychological trick goes to work. Once she has AGREED with you, that she is "Fun and Adventurous", she will try and live up to what she has agreed to. If she is naturally more reserved, she has just agreed to you that she is adventurous. She will try and live up to what she has agreed to.

    A girl I helped skating the other night was telling me that she gets a lot of anxiety with things she is not comfortable with. So I was holding her hand constantly as I was helping. She got more unsteady, so I put one arm around her waist. To keep her from falling. Then later, she was texting, I went to talk a bit. I led with a long lingering touch on the upper back. And then turned it into a little rub. A girl who admits to having anxiety just let me, a relative stranger do a long lingering touch. That is because I had already established touch with her, and it not a big deal. She was still unsteady skating, anxiety, but she had no problem with me touching her.

    My experience is, Kino really establishes a sense of familiarity and lowered defenses. You gain a nice level of acceptance from her. And once you have that, you can work for more.

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    Default Re: How do you begin sex talk in a smooth way?

    Did you end up fucking her?

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    Default Re: How do you begin sex talk in a smooth way?

    Redstar1324 Comment First Question in Comment #10:

    It depends on how far you have escalated. Usually if you are leading then she responds to Kino as an instruction. I think that Mystery dude, would put his arm out to instruct her to move with him a new location and she would grab it.

    There are so many ways, to identify. She may mirror you and your body language. She may move in closer to help the escalation process. She may respond non defensively, She may smile. She may just let you control the whole situation and just follow the leader. She may find a reason to touch you, lift your shirt. Play fight. Even be playful and flirty and just touch you and make a sound to get your attention (literally just happened to me in lunch break from Hired Gun).

    If its intense she may do all the escalation, wrap her arms around your neck, Rub herself on you, Ask "where are we going after this?" etc.

    Like this hired Gun, I have to make a move after work if I am interested, she has made it obvious to me she is interested. So if I don't seize the opportunity then I will have to put in an effort if I decide too.

    Women will respond if there interested. Otherwise we are trying to pick up brick walls. So you just need to respond to her reaction and either Escalate more or relax until she responds to the escalation accordingly.

    As for talking with substance. As long as you can ask questions about her and when she responds you can make it fun, The only thing she needs to know about you is your name.... And with some girls probably not even. I Just neg them consistently and use Kino and Smiling as the Icing on the cake. I dont say much at all. Shes the one being interviewed whether she is worthy, not me. I'm over qualified for my position.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: How do you begin sex talk in a smooth way?

    Why are you over qualified?

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    I am overqualified simply because I know my character and my qualities and it is a tiny amount of other guys who have established this due to the shift in value.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: How do you begin sex talk in a smooth way?

    Redstar1324,

    This is a great question!

    What's more important: talking about sex... or having it?

    I think we as men want to talk about sex, because that seems like an alternative way to manifest our sexual thoughts.
    "God I want sex with her!" becomes, "I know! I'll talk about sex!"

    So I think it's more important to be leading the interaction to physical sex, than expressing it verbally!
    And in my opinion, it's best to keep the sexual energy bubbling over the top of the conversation.

    Still if you do want to bring it up, as usual, it's best done in the context of her.
    "Where has she had sex?"
    "What does she like in a man?"
    "What has she tried?/What would she like to try?"
    "What is her favourite fantasy?"

    I usually transition non-verbally...
    It's not replying when she stops talking... looking at her lips... and saying, "Where's the strangest place you've had sex?"


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