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    Default My night out... Responses please...

    Night started, me by myself...

    But I started eavesdropping on the people next to me just to try to gain some social skills...

    Here's what I heard...

    The girl was talking about a trip to Brazil she wanted to go on... The guy was just listening...

    They weren't married and I got to know that they weren't in a serious relationship...

    When I had a chance, I asked the girl if she used to go to a school that I went to (just an excuse to start a conversation)...

    She didn't, but we talked about how I used to want to be a neurologist before I "got into real estate,"... She is going to school to eventually be an art teacher... She said I'm really smart was her first impression...

    I noticed that her and who she was with had a high level of comfort that I'm not sure I could build with a girl ever...

    She said to the guy at one point that she was " taking a break from sex,"... Maybe she changed her mind at the end of the night, I don't know... Alcohol can change people...

    I know that if she would have started talking to me, I would/could have gone straight to sex in a minute...

    This whole time, I was writing notes about the interaction on a napkin... She at one point asked me what I was writing...

    After I talked to this girl for just a few seconds (about that I was smart and what was I writing)... The conversation trailed off...

    I noticed that if me and her would have been left one on one, I would have become needy, clingy, and weak like a momma's boy and I don't know why this is because I just got out of prison... Or, alternatively, I would have gotten very angry...

    A few minutes later, I had moved to another part of the bar and ordered food (I hadn't eaten for a while)... At that point, I figured my night was done...

    Later, that same girl came and talked to me, at one point kissed me on the cheek and told me they would be outside...

    A few minutes later, there was an older, but more aggressive guy and I think at one point, he put his hand up her skirt... She "fought it," but she probably liked it...

    At this point, I noticed that the only way to be ultimately successful is to be sexually aggressive... The guys that were "bothering," the girls by being aggressive were probably giving them exactly what they wanted...

    Did this girl give in to the guy by the end of the night? I have no way of knowing that, but I noticed that I'm trying to run a "pull," game while the only thing that would truly work is a "push," game... (Am I right or wrong?)...

    Also, even though I am trying to claim to be "nicer," than those aggressive guys... I also have massive anger and mental health issues...

    Those guys who are aggressive... I am no different than them except that I'm being dishonest about it... I'm wanting to say the same thing, but instead I'm being dishonest (or passive aggressive) and talking about surface/stupid shit... Do I really care what she goes to school for? Probably not. But do I have the balls to put my hand up her skirt? No.

    I think that every girl there would wish someone would be that aggressive with them. When I saw that, it made every other guy there seem like a pussy.

    I remember when Pimpin used to be on this forum and he said that you could go up to any girl left at the bar at the end of the night and get them to go home with you and he was probably right.

    At one point, I wrote that I could neither be nice enough nor mean enough. I'm stuck in the middle.

    I would make conversation with girls about their earrings because they were a cross and I would talk to them about Christianity and other stupid shit like that (is that stupid?)...

    I remember thinking very clearly that I was no different "nicely," (passively aggressively) wanting sex (by talking about surface things and not bringing up sex) than the guys who were talking about it aggressively and assertively. At least they're being honest.

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    So be honest, but say it to suit your personality. You don't have to put your hand up dress just more assertive.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    Something like...

    "Do you want to get your pussy eaten in the back seat of my car?"

    Lol.

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    Men dont ask. They lead Brother.

    But build enough attraction and you can ask that exactly how its worded. Do you know how many times I've said to a Girl "Want to fuck?" and she has said yes due to the attraction and sexual Tension you have built. You can get away with Murder if you build enough attraction that all she wants is you in her mind, doesn't matter who i am or how I act, she just want me or the idea of me and she will look past anything. But you need to know how to get under her skin. Be that guy in her mind that is a prize. That no other guy matters. You are the only guy that is important, who is better then any other guy.

    Not hard to do either. She does 90 percent of it herslef with her own mind. The other ten percent is you fuelling that 90 percent. Women overthink and fantasize. If you are everything a Man should be. She will fantasize about you. Then all you are doing in that 10 percent is being yourself and giving her hope to keep her fantasizing.

    I get girls I talk to for 5 minutes over the phone once every 3 weeks, saying they have feelings for me. Why, not because I'm talented..... NO because her brain did it for me. I just showed it what it wanted to see when with them or called.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    What do you think about that stuff on Google about that thing I did?

    Is that gonna mess me up every time?

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    No..... Just dont say anything unless it gets serious or she founds out. Tell her how you learned from the experience and how your brain chemistry is fine aslong You do not touch (the thing that caused the reaction) what you did. Since the thing did make you loose years of your life that you hate it. So you will never touching it again. (show passion so she believes it and is genuine).

    you can even take it further which will validate why you didn't mention it.: I just want to put this behind me and live a normal life, Its been punishing me for (this amount of time). I cant wait for it to be old news. I have changed so much and become such a man in the process. But its still there like a ball and chain. But i'm still positive.

    It will activate her empathy. Show that you are genuine which will help. It also puts her in a place were she feels the need not follow everyone else. Which will open her up. But This is assuming you have already got her pretty into you or you have been dating for a while. not like first date.

    Your good to go.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    Wow thanks.

    I really wish I knew how to activate that fantasy part of the brain at will.

    Best I'm still doing is talking about factual things. A girl the other night told me I'm "smart like a scientist." That's all well and good, but it's not exactly physical or passionate. I can ask a million girls where they're from and what they want to do and I can find out that a million girls are from this state and want to be veterinarians. That doesn't get me anywhere.

    How do I get past this to activate the fantasy brain and have sex with them?

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    Its really not that hard. Become the best, most confident, most determined, driven version of yourself. Learn Empathy, so when you are asking questions and they tell you stuff about how they feel, you understand her way of thinking and she will be like " he just gets me" Make it fun too by flirting, Jokes etc. So your fun.

    This will show That you are a fun, Intimate, Alpha male who knows what he wants and how to get it.

    She will do the rest.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    Sorry for all the questions, but...

    She will do the rest?

    She will rape me? I don't think so.

    Last night, I got a kiss on the cheek and invited to play pool. I think that's about the most they would do by themselves.

    I still need to find out how to lead from ioi (on the rare occasion that I get them) to sex in a non rapist and non creepy way.

    I am being dishonest to these girls by not outright telling them I want to have sex. Why would I waste time talking about their psychology degree any more than as an opener? They've had that conversation a million times.

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    Default Re: My night out... Responses please...

    She will do the Rest:

    1. she will build the attraction for you on her own with her own over active mind. Im talking about activating the fantasy brain which was the question you asked.

    She will not rape you. But you can probably pay someone to do that for you.

    ioi - (Kino Escalation, Eye contact) - Sex. Physical Formula.
    IOI - (Negs-Qualifiers-Flirt) - Sex. Verbal Formula.

    Its not dishonest because you haven't told them straight away.

    did she ask " Do you want to have sex with me?" most likely not.

    If she doesn't ask then you have no reason to answer other then the fact that you want to establish your intentions. So dont feel guilty for not doing it, see the benefit in doing it and the missing out if you don't.

    Escalate with it.

    Tell her "She looks Fucking Sexy"
    Compliment her personal features. Then use that to escalate the Kino.
    "You are sooo skinny, Is there anything there?" - with a smile (touch her waist).
    Then NEG her when you do.
    "You need to eat. I'm ordering pizza right now" - Cheeky smile

    Fuck her psychology degree - Rapport is for relationships and dating. You just want to take her from the IOI back to yours. Make it fun, Keep it simple, Flirt. Touch and escalate. Then a good indicator is if you have kissed her, don't delay much from that point but don't say anything that will activate her Anti-Slut mechanism.

    Just grab her hand and look her in the eyes and say "lets go" while walking leading her. Take her to the Taxi or Car and well keep it up until you get to the place you want to do it and do it.
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.


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