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    MKECityBoy is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Handling Couchserfers

    I have a couchsurfer coming to spend 3 days at my place from Vietnam. Couchserfing is when you use somebody's couch like you would on Airbnb when on vacation, but you don't pay. She's a 22 year old HB7 and has couchsurfed around 10 times. One of my friends introduced me to this concept but I've never hosted a surfer nor traveled as one myself. However, I have met 4 of my buddy's female surfers, none of which was below a HB7 - I jumped on it quickly.

    From observing my buddy's approach and interaction with them as an AFC, I see that the main issue to intimacy is similar to the relationship of an AFC and his best friend who he is secretly in love with. In both cases, he doesn't want to ruin the rest of the trip and relationship if she rejects him. They would still have to awkwardly go to his place together for the rest of the trip. It's just a very awkward situation and I'm glad I got to learn from his experiences.

    Help: When, where, and how agressive should I be making the move? What techniques should I use to warm her up so that when I make the move, it goes the direction I want?

    Cheers!

    MKECityBoy

    (My next post will be about how to make an easy and comfortable transition of isolating my friend's surfers to place for intimacy.)

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    Default Re: Handling Couchserfers

    I would honestly suggest to not do it.

    As you said it's creepy, feels awkward, and from her position it's a bit scary - does she have to hook up with you? If not, where will she sleep?

    Instead have fun, make new friends, maybe take her to places where it can build value to meet other girls, etc.
    'The Game is what gives a PUA his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the world together.'

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    MKECityBoy is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Handling Couchserfers

    Using her to build value with other girls is a great way to train. I used this last night - thank you!

    We don't have to hook up. But I never said anything about hooking up. I'm trying to work on my intimacy. Such as the context of making moves: where, when & how under a set of circumstances such as what I explained.

    The time to make the move would be after she's comfortable with me. It's our job to make them feel comfortable with us. It would definitely be, "creepy, feel awkward, and from her position it's a bit scary" if a guy tried to make a move on any girl if they're not comfortable with each other.

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    Default Re: Handling Couchserfers

    Location of the first move with couchserfer guests:
    What I discovered is that the first move needs to be made at a location other then at the hosting site. If you try it at the couch location and it doesn't go your way, she'll lose the comfort you've built, plus she won't feel comfortable in her "bed." However, if you try it at a bar or other location and it doesn't work out, you can still go on with your evening with the understanding that you just misread the situation or whatever you want to use as your excuse. Plans and her sleeping arrangements can still stay the same.

    The first move doesn't mean you have to start making out with her. If it goes that way - more power to you. But, all you need is an extremely strong ioi. An example of this would be her enjoying you kiss her neck. Another is holding hands or the two of you putting your arms around each other in a sexual way in the time directly before going back to the couch location. It's ok to make a follow-up move at the hosting site. In fact, you have to make this final move to go any further.


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