I feel like these two concepts are different:
I'm a noob at this PUA stuff, but I've been studying it quite obsessively this last week and finally got a chance to go out and get some practice. I decided to go to a mall, not only so I could find some clothing for my alpha personality, but also because I didn't feel like going to a club and essentially paying money to fail.
I immediately came across a dilemma: my openers don't feel like openers. I've tried them on a few people I know here and there and they were successful, but I feel what I'm using is more useful for leading a conversation, inserting DHVs and gaining rapport. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but these openers I read from PUAs seem more appropriate as A2 material. Here's what I have:
Who's more deceptive, guys or girls? (altered "lies"; I have an interesting personal story)
Little Sister Wants a Tattoo
Is Herman a Deal-Breaker name?
Is David Bowie Hot?
I just end up thinking "who would actually want to stand there with this complete stranger and listen to his story?" because personally, I wouldn't want to. I'd farking hate it if some guy or girl just randomly interrupted my day to talk to me about this dumb Sh1t (though I guess I wouldn't mind as much if it was a hot chick). It's like "why are you asking me? Don't you have any friends?" It immediately seems lame to me. It conveys a sense of neediness, like I need other people's opinions or I need someone to talk to. This girl from work instantly comes to mind; she talks to me about the stupidest Sh1t and it has less to do with liking me and more to do with her being desperate for attention. I find myself gravitating toward situational openers like:
I like your jacket! Kinda makes you look like a lumberjack.
When you bought your jeans, did they already have holes in them?
Omg! Your socks are so colorful!
You're very little (go into story about my mom pointing out tall women to me)
I realize now that this would be commenting on their pea-cocking, which only goes to show how effective the technique is because it feels so much more comfortable. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to use their clothes as an opening for myself and then throw in my "openers" while using the right body language to move into a set. I've also been thinking of profound/absurd openers like this one:
"Are you familiar with the game? This game... we're playing a game right now. Tell me, what is the meaning of life?"
Which kinda fits my personality a bit more because I say some really weird Sh1t. Bringing up those other "openers" out of nowhere just feels so awkward to me because I get the feeling I'm conveying way too much interest just by giving them attention. I understand I'm initially going to start off with less value (and then shift her perceived value of herself in relation to me), but how do I get her attention without appearing interested? Is the answer "if you're opening, you're going to seem interested no matter what" and "by buffering your openers with IODs, she'll let her guard down" or are these alternatives I've posted more effective?