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    Default My opinion opener, feedback please

    This Saturday I shall be going to a free bootcamp and was thinking about using an opinion opener to begin with. Mainly because it's interesting and it could get a conversation going.

    The objective of that bootcamp is to open a set and then get an instant date.

    This is a real event, and I am using this opener so that it automatically dhv's me while opening:

    Hey, excuse me! I am going to meet some friends of mine(False-Time Constraint) and I was wondering whether I could get a female opinion on a matter? (Y or N) Well, a friend of mine who is almost 40 years old is really into his female co-worker. This poor chap has not dated for almost 20 years and has had only 1 girlfriend in his life. (Creating intrigue and controversy) Well, he told me that he has written 11 letters to this lady and hopes to win her over, but the problem is she has NEVER replied. He wanted to write her another letter because he believes that females appreciate that gesture. But I think that it's not a good idea because that would come off as stalkerish, sending 12 letters. What would you advise?

    I think this would DHV as a guy that looks out for his friends and it might flip on a attraction switch. I shall be using this in a shopping mall and in Asia where I represent the ethnic minority thus I shall be using their language hopefully another DHV.

    How is it?How could it be improved?

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    Default Re: My opinion opener, feedback please

    Quote Originally Posted by TheApostle View Post
    This Saturday I shall be going to a free bootcamp and was thinking about using an opinion opener to begin with. Mainly because it's interesting and it could get a conversation going.

    The objective of that bootcamp is to open a set and then get an instant date.

    This is a real event, and I am using this opener so that it automatically dhv's me while opening:

    Hey, excuse me! I am going to meet some friends of mine(False-Time Constraint) and I was wondering whether I could get a female opinion on a matter? (Y or N) Well, a friend of mine who is almost 40 years old is really into his female co-worker. This poor chap has not dated for almost 20 years and has had only 1 girlfriend in his life. (Creating intrigue and controversy) Well, he told me that he has written 11 letters to this lady and hopes to win her over, but the problem is she has NEVER replied. He wanted to write her another letter because he believes that females appreciate that gesture. But I think that it's not a good idea because that would come off as stalkerish, sending 12 letters. What would you advise?

    I think this would DHV as a guy that looks out for his friends and it might flip on a attraction switch. I shall be using this in a shopping mall and in Asia where I represent the ethnic minority thus I shall be using their language hopefully another DHV.

    How is it?How could it be improved?
    The idea behind this opener is strong, but you can condense a lot. I think that with an opener, brevity is an important aspect. If your opening, you don't have the luxury of being able run a longer gambit, since you haven't hooked. If your opener takes too long, you won't be able to transition quickly enough and propel the conversation. Here are some changes I would make:
    Change "Hey, excuse me! I'm..." to "Hey guys, I'm meeting..."
    Change "I was wondering if I could get a female opinion on a matter." to "I need a female opinion on something." Wording it in an imperative sense is higher status than an interrogative sense. (Tell instead of ask.)
    Leave out your friend's age and just say "My friend is really into his female co-worker."
    The next sentence is fine as is.
    Change "Well, he told me 11 letters etc." to "He told me he's written a number of letters to her hoping to get her to like him, but she has *never* replied!"
    Change "he told me he wants to write her another..." to "Now he plans to write her *another* letter because he thinks she'll appreciate the gesture."
    Change the last two sentences to "I think I need to tell him it's a bad idea because he'll look like a total stalker/creeper/[pick your word] if he keeps this up, but what do you guys advise?"

    I know I overhauled this, but this is how I would want this opener to come out of my mouth. I think leaving out the minute details like the guys age and the specific number of letters is okay, since the set only needs to know the general situation to give you a sentence or three of response so you can transition. These are only my suggestions, and if you feel that they suck and you like your original version better, then stay with it. Hope this helped.

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    Default Re: My opinion opener, feedback please

    Sounds good, but I think you should do what Prosper says And remember to Field Test it do both openers and variations to figure out what works for you
    Have fun

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    Default Re: My opinion opener, feedback please

    Brilliant!

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    Default Re: My opinion opener, feedback please

    Don’t ask permission and don’t apologize in your opener. It makes you look weak.
    Other than that an opener is just a bit, don’t fret over it worry about the transition.


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