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  1. #1
    Strike97 Guest

    Question Strange Problem Post-First Date

    Hi guys Ė New to the forum here. Looking for some advice from some fellow aspiring PUAís and wondering if anyoneís experienced a similar problem: Iíve hit a new roadblock of sorts. The last three dates Iíve had (all HB 8.5s/9s), went well, or so I thought... First, some background: All of these girls I met out sarging, number-closed, put forth good phone game in between meetings, and met up within 10 days. Dates all went well - Good conversation, consistent laughs, physical escalation leading to making out in various places (in the venue, second venue from a bounce, back of a cab), and leading discussion of going out again soon, etc.

    But hereís the rub: Not one, not a single one of these girls has ever responded to me again. Complete silence. Iíve tried one voicemail and one text with each within a week after the date, but have left it at that. Nothing awkward or strange happened at the end of the date, or post-make out, in fact I havenít deviated from my standard gameplan in any respect so Iím wondering what it could be. Iím not among the worldís best by any stretch (canít close 9s and 10s with regularity but I have my moments), but I have pretty solid game. Iíve replayed the various nights in my head, trying to find a mistake (most likely in my sequencing, perhaps?) that I may have made, since there obviously is one, but Iím at a loss.

    Such post-date silence seems strange because I was able to successfully escalate with all three girls. Obviously, given a complete lack of post-date responses, the dates didnít go as well as I thought. While I was not able to get them home to f-close, I didnít attempt to do so. Perhaps that was a mistake but at first, I didnít view it as an insurmountable one. Reason why is that I am a believer in the seven-hour rule, and since the dates all seemed to be going well with open discussion of a second date already taken as obvious, and since Iíd only put in roughly three hours with each girl, I didnít think Iíd put enough time in with any of them. True, I could have at least attempted to get them back to my place, but all dates were on weeknights where I, or both of us, had to be up by 5-6 am. Not exactly the right situation to f-close a 9. I figured Iíd put in some time during the week, and f-close at the weekend once Iíd put more time in (close to 7 hrs.).

    Regardless, had this happened once with a HB, Iíd just dismiss it as a one-off and move on to the next. But this has happened with three girls consecutively so I feel itís time to acknowledge somethingís gone wrong with my golf swing, so to speak, and I donít know where to fix it. Iíve always thought the discussion on this board was of a very high level, so I figured Iíd seek the advice of some fellow aspiring PUAís. Iíd welcome any thoughts/feedback. Look forward to talking with you all.

    Good hunting.

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    Default Re: Strange Problem Post-First Date

    well it could be a number of things. you should probably draw up the field reports for us to assess. It could be from escalating to fast all the way down to the way you kiss. you never know what it is. but we can help
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  3. #3
    Mystery_wannabe Guest

    Default Re: Strange Problem Post-First Date

    Quote Originally Posted by crobinson1 View Post
    well it could be a number of things. you should probably draw up the field reports for us to assess. It could be from escalating to fast all the way down to the way you kiss. you never know what it is. but we can help
    I concur. If the escalation was too fast, the girl would show that. She wouldn't have let him kiss her. Since he said "made out" it is assumed that the girl has both attraction and comfort with him.

    I think the issue here is future dating. Strike97, have you indicated with the girl at any point that you would like to go do (fill in the blank) with her in the future?

    My feeling is that she thinks she has a great interaction but it's a one-time thing that won't last.

  4. #4
    Strike97 Guest

    Default Re: Strange Problem Post-First Date

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystery_wannabe View Post
    I concur. If the escalation was too fast, the girl would show that. She wouldn't have let him kiss her. Since he said "made out" it is assumed that the girl has both attraction and comfort with him.

    I think the issue here is future dating. Strike97, have you indicated with the girl at any point that you would like to go do (fill in the blank) with her in the future?

    My feeling is that she thinks she has a great interaction but it's a one-time thing that won't last.

    Crobinson1 and Mystery wannabe: Thanks very much for your feedback and for your time, guys. Mwannabe - You make a good point re: future dating. Upon reflection, with all three girls, I did mention a couple times during conversation that we should go to x or y location sometime in the future but admittedly, it's possible I didn't seed the second date well enough. Probably not in as concrete a manner as I should have done.

    Still, given the consistent physical escalation with all three girls, kissing throughout the evening, I figured I dhv'd well enough to overcome that mistake.

    I figure at this point I'll lay low with all three girls for two weeks (one funny vmail and text is enough for now) before any future contact. Still, it is frustrating to know that on three dates with three different girls, I've made a large enough mistake to completely rule out future contact, and yet I don't know specifically what it was. I think we at least have an educated guess now though. While not seeding the second date well enough is a mistake, in my experience it's usually not a fatal one. I''m curious: How about for you guys - Ever have that mistake come back to bite you?

    Strike97


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