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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    Excellent list.
    One that works well for me currently:

    (If she moves her arms above 45 degrees)
    [with a poker face] Wow, you're so emancipated to not worry about your airmpit hair.

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    I'm pretty sure the "nose wiggles" neg would have to be the oldest one in the book haha.

    But these are good, gotta try and remember them now.

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    Some nice list have to admit, there are rather few old ones but still every contribution is good so we can learn and improve in this nice game of cat and mouse

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    I remember the "nose wiggles" one from the pick up artist tv show from several years ago so yeah it's pretty old. You can rule out pretty much anything you have read in the game or mystery method too. Most women(especially younger women)have probably heard all of them by now.

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    What are a few good negs to say to a girl that is not to responsive to negs? for example, "dang its hot outside, your going to have to bring me some cold drinks" her: "uh who said I was bringing you drinks?" "how else am I going to cool off?" her: " um bring your own drinks haha" me:" I cant do your job, that would be mean her: "who said that was my job"

    Nothing, everytime she just dashed it down like Decambe Matumbo blocking a shot! so any ideas on what to say to her?

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    After she said "who said that was my job" you could have said something like "I did. Haven't you been paying attention?" Say this with a big smile. If you didn't say that then you let her win and she got you. Anyway, don't worry.

    The last thing you want to do is take anything she says too seriously. You want to maintain your frame. Make it clear you are having fun and just joking around even if it'sat her expense. In the above example you could have said something like "wow, you might be taking this a little too seriously. I like fun girls." Then she would either say "no I'm not" or "I am fun" in which case she would be qualifying herself.

    One thing you can do is just give her a sincere compliment that is not about her looks. Compliment her personality. Even an article of clothing or piece of jewelry is ok as long as it's not just "I think your hot."

    It's hard for any woman to be all mean when you give her a compliment. Don't expect anything back though. The good thing about compliments is it lets her know you are interested so if you get a bad reaction from it then you know to just forget about her and move on to the next girl. So in that sense they help you save time. Don't give them out too soon and it's best to compliment her on something you like about her(something other than just her looks if possible).

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    Ill give it a shot, it seems like all the stuff I read on the forum and dating advice and advice from my buddies is just, be cocky funny dude that is always in charge shows no sign of weakness or emotion and negs her relentlessly but I feel like I don't know when to give an actual compliment if ever

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    There's a tendency in the PUA community to be a bit relentless with the cocky funny thing and what happens is guys rely too much on it and over use it. If that's all you do you will come across as an ass and it will actually turn the woman off. It needs to be calibrated to a degree but it also needs to be used sparingly. You want to use it as a chef would use a spice. You sprinkle it in when necessary. You don't want to offend the woman and you don't want to piss her off. You just want to catch her off guard a little bit and show her you aren't intimidated by her beauty. Mostly you want to use it with females who are hb7s and higher. But you also have to pay attention to her personality. If she's a really feisty girl with an obvious sense of humor then you can use it a bit more. If she's more serious or stuck up maybe not so much if at all or at least not right away.

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    Mystik, thank you. you have just answered the question ive been asking in several posts haha, nail on the head man. I really appreciate it

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    Default Re: Ultimate List of Negs

    Negging serves a lot of purposes, some have been mentioned, some have been hinted at. The most important one however is often overlooked: Show her non-neediness. Mystery mentions that simply blowing your nose just after opening is a neg, because it tells her: I don't give a sh1t. It seems so obvious that if you blow your nose when you're in a set, you're clearly not trying to impress her or pick her up (or you'd be kissing her ass, not making an ass of yourself). This lowers her defense, puts her at ease.

    That's another thing (although related) than getting her to work for your approval instead of the other way around. Another great effect of a neg is that it wins over the rest of the group. Her friends will not see you as a "threat" if you pick on her, just enough to differentiate from all the AFCs that walk up to her and start hitting on her. Negs are more important and more powerful in groups. When 1-on-1, tone it down a little.

    So, there's multiple "taste buds" negging can hit; every neg will have their own "palette" so to speak, and ofcourse, setting and tone will also influence this heavily. Here are some of the effects a neg can have (== reasons to neg), if any of you can think of more; let's have 'em!

    • Show non-neediness, you're not after picking her up, or why would you insult her?
    • Disarm her friends, win their trust and imply you're on their side
    • Be different from all the guys that hit on her (the hotter she is, the more important this is)
    • Get her value down... I don't really like this, by adding playfulness, you can prevent this. If she really is too high up, I would reccommend not making it too obvious you're just messing with her.
    • Put her in an "emotional rollercoaster", like push-pull, like I love you, I hate you, you're cute, you're disgusting.
    • Keep her guessing is a result of the last two, and keeps you interesting/challenging. This only works if there's doubt in her mind whether or not you're messing with her. If you soak your negs in playfulness, you sacrifice this effect. What you generally want to see is that wtf-look, followed up by a smile, an IOI or some validation-seeking or qualification.
    • Simply make or keep conversation, a neg is also just "the next thing to say", and often an extended hand for some good banter.
    • Show off your cleverness, wits and sense of humour, which sometimes is value, but can also be the exact thing that does make it look needy, and therefore being too witty can undermine the first purpose I mention (showing non-neediness).
    • Show a willingness to take risks, which is a dhv. Some of the negs I read about are so ballsy, that a girl will roll her eyes, think for a second and actually be impressed by the fact you risked getting a knee in your balls for saying that. HB9+ stuff, I would reckon.

    As you can see, there's a lot of overlap. So, couple of examples to top it off, in all honesty most of these I've never tried, nor would I if I hadn't read so much about it recently:
    • "Stop undressing me with your eyes, it's embarrasing!" Without playfulness, this could look very needy. Also, this doesn't really lower her value, it might even raise it. I think everybody will know that you are in fact flirting, so you're not disarming her friends either. It does hit the emotional roller coaster spot pretty well, I think.
    • "Wow, you really think you're the sh1t! I kinda like that." Another little push-pull, she will definitely hear you say "Nobody else really thinks you're the sh1t". The more playful you'd say this, the more it actually might lower her value. Another friends-winner I think.
    • "Are you trying to hurt my feelings, or just making terrible conversation?" is a good anti-neg-neg. :-) (If she says A, you can alwasy come back with something like: "Good, at least you see me as someone with feelings".) This will mainly keep the conversation going.
    • A well timed, dismissive "Huh" could be enough to keep her guessing to if you're actually hitting on her (like everybody else) or not giving a sh1t.


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