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    Default guidance and some feedback about a girl

    hi guys, there's the thing, i work in a bank, as a teller, i started to go to lunch in an art coffee nad the waitress is my kind of girl, lol, pretty, cute, and love '70 rock, so, i start whit what for a bank employee ,( at least here in argentina) is my second nature, cocky and funny, so, i've been playfull, and a few more things, and thanks that i'm an artist also ( painting) and the advice form fine pleople from here, i beginto pick up some body language from her and the owner, ( cool dude), i often catch him lookin us like specting from something to happen , the thing is., i only have 40 min to lunch, so betwen the time i get to that coffe shop, i order, and eat, there's not much time left to game her,at least whit my poor skills at this moment, so ( yesterday she told me about her weekend and how so many guys try to pick her up , i act indiferent , like o yeah sure . while i was thinking wtf!! lol)

    the thing is
    i will apretiate some sugestion to succed ( shit my english sucks this morning) i was thinkin in get her phone whit that game, lie the answer of 5 question that appears in THE GAME,

    i been out of the game for way too long, 3 years ago i broke up whit my ex, then my dad died, a year to recover, then my mom almost die for a vicious heartattack so , it was quite rough for me to recover and then ......i find out about this community, and i say to me, this is waht i need.

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    Default Re: guidance and some feedback about a girl

    i guess you could use some inner game. Try david DeAngelo, hes the best.

    Dude i was a Teller too and im divorced... and im from a latin american country too. hahhaa you are me from an altenate universe lol.

    shes a Hired Gun, these kind of girls are not easy to pick up because so many guys hit on them. im thinking about what would have been a good response towards her saying lots of guys tried to pick her up... i would have said like: i know you are waiting for me.. thats good you are so cute! < with a smile on my face and i would have winked her. depending on her reaction i would have bit the bullet and go for it.

    Be careful with the shop owner, he could be her father or worse, be crushed on her and he will cockblock you.

    EDIT: dont try to get her # like that fooling her, that sucks, start talking about something cool you are gooing to do and invite her to join you and EXCHANGE numbers, always exchange.

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    Disclaimer: I’m a beginner PUA that has the basics down (or at least think I do lol) so my advice may be sketchy. In matter of fact, I just made a thread thsi morning about how I couldn’t p-close.

    It seems like she was shit testing you. She may have been trying to gauge if you’re the jealous type or trying to convey that you’re just another chump doing the same thing.

    You can google “PUA waitress” to get tons of negs or “PUA shit tests” and see what comes up. Being indifferent I think is the best way but I prefer negging her on it with C&F and would go like this….

    “You know how you were saying you get hit on a lot? Well I was thinking maybe you should try walking on the sidewalk once in awhile. I would escort you but you don’t have that kind of cash on you being a waitress and all. You know what, I'll make an exception cause I feel sorry for you so type in your #” (You put the phone in her hand or at least try to when your saying the last sentence)

    Or

    “It was so sweet trying to make me jealous the other day by telling me how often you got hit on. I do appreciate the effort in trying to get me because other girls don’t even try. I admit you got my attention but don’t get cocky because you still have ways to go. In matter of fact, you can start this weekend.” Pull out your phone and put in her hand and say “type in your number" or "hurry and type in your number before I lose interest."

    In either case you’re negging her, being C&F, going for a P-close, leading as an alpha by telling her to give you her number, and escalating to a change of venue. There may even be some Push and Pull if I understand this concept correctly. It also only takes a few minutes to deliver it properly as you have a legitimate time constraint.

    These two scenarios are under the assumption that you already have some rapport with her. I'm not sure what reaction you may get if you just come out from left field and do this.


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    Default Re: guidance and some feedback about a girl

    student, i dont know man but if you want to have cocky and funny you need to add funny to that. thats way to cocky and way to harsh to be used as a neg.

    Ive read about a LOT of guys that have taken cocky funny into the next level and have failed miserably. BTW also heard the same thing about people going to far with negs. a neg is a small disqualifier Not a fucking earful.

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    Default Re: guidance and some feedback about a girl

    Quote Originally Posted by prjav View Post
    student, i dont know man but if you want to have cocky and funny you need to add funny to that. thats way to cocky and way to harsh to be used as a neg.

    Ive read about a LOT of guys that have taken cocky funny into the next level and have failed miserably. BTW also heard the same thing about people going to far with negs. a neg is a small disqualifier Not a farking earful.
    This is why I put a disclaimer. Either way, my suggestions are not written in stone and can always be adjusted to fit the person using them and the target. You found an imbalance because to much cocky is present and not enough funny. How would you improve on my two suggestions? I dont ask to put you on the spot or to be a jerk but rather to actually improve what I'm doing and the original poster as well.

    Also, are you able to handle a sh1t test during a p-close? If so, take a look at the thread "Strip Joint Waitress." Some pointers are greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: guidance and some feedback about a girl

    Not trying to dig on you to hard here student but part of the reason you didn’t get that number is caues you neg to hard. You have to learn to soften it up. Don’t let negs become your personality; they are just a tool to be used when needed. If you go to hard and use to many you will just look like an A$$ hole, not the bad boy you are trying to be.

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    Default Re: guidance and some feedback about a girl

    Quote Originally Posted by The Student View Post
    Disclaimer: I’m a beginner PUA that has the basics down (or at least think I do lol) so my advice may be sketchy. In matter of fact, I just made a thread thsi morning about how I couldn’t p-close.


    “You know how you were saying you get hit on a lot? Well I was thinking maybe you should try walking on the sidewalk once in awhile. I would escort you but you don’t have that kind of cash on you being a waitress and all(farking asshole comment, i would slap you into reality if you were my wing, toooooooo cocky). You know what, I'll make an exception cause I feel sorry for you(fark you would be a great response for this, way to harsh) so type in your #” (You put the phone in her hand or at least try to when your saying the last sentence)

    Or

    It was so sweet trying to make me jealous the other day (Making a big fuss over a comment) by telling me how often you got hit on. I do appreciate the effort in trying to get me because other girls don’t even try(saying you are not preselected by women). I admit you got my attention but don’t get cocky because you still have ways to go. In matter of fact, you can start this weekend.” Pull out your phone and put in her hand and say “type in your number" or "hurry and type in your number before I lose interest." (too cocky)

    Quote Originally Posted by prjav

    shes a Hired Gun, these kind of girls are not easy to pick up because so many guys hit on them. im thinking about what would have been a good response towards her saying lots of guys tried to pick her up... i would have said like: i know you are waiting for me.. thats good you are so cute! < with a smile on my face and i would have winked her. depending on her reaction i would have bit the bullet and go for it.

    Be careful with the shop owner, he could be her father or worse, be crushed on her and he will cockblock you.

    EDIT: dont try to get her # like that fooling her, that sucks, start talking about something cool you are gooing to do and invite her to join you and EXCHANGE numbers, always exchange.

    i hate to use canned lines. guys dont memorize what you are going to say, learn what each line should say. Buddy ive been studing for 6 hours. ill make sure ill look into your other thread, please give me a link and ill look it up.

    edit:studying for an accounting exam i got this thrusday lol not PUA stuff.
    Last edited by prjav; 08-04-2010 at 02:08 AM.

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    Default Re: guidance and some feedback about a girl

    ^^^Thanks prjav. As you mentioned, I acknowledge that she is more difficult being a Hired Gun and all but I initally opened her to get practice. Since our interaction seem to go well, I decided to continue and if something materializes then great, if not, I won't sleep over it. Anyways, here's the link:

    http://www.puaforums.com/how-pick-up...-waitress.html

    You're taking an accounting course? Are you a business major? More specifically, an Accounting major? I'm an accountant myself (graduated with my bachelors), let me know if you need help. I can't promise to know everything but hopefully what I do know can benefit you.

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    JuanPablo75 Guest

    Default Re: guidance and some feedback about a girl

    Quote Originally Posted by prjav View Post
    i guess you could use some inner game. Try david DeAngelo, hes the best.

    Dude i was a Teller too and im divorced... and im from a latin american country too. hahhaa you are me from an altenate universe lol.

    shes a Hired Gun, these kind of girls are not easy to pick up because so many guys hit on them. im thinking about what would have been a good response towards her saying lots of guys tried to pick her up... i would have said like: i know you are waiting for me.. thats good you are so cute! < with a smile on my face and i would have winked her. depending on her reaction i would have bit the bullet and go for it.

    Be careful with the shop owner, he could be her father or worse, be crushed on her and he will cockblock you.

    EDIT: dont try to get her # like that fooling her, that sucks, start talking about something cool you are gooing to do and invite her to join you and EXCHANGE numbers, always exchange.



    Prjav , lol, maybe i am you in an alternate universe lol, but is a good sign don't u think??

    i follow your advice, i was reading some books of deangelo and ..... u r right, cool stuff , and there is the update.

    cuz the issues that i mentioned before in the las 3 years, i give up my guitar classes, and the gym and some other things, when my family or someone i care about needs help, i'm there standing on the edge of the cliff. trully, ( may be the odd mix of italian sicilian irish blood that i have) this babe, the waitress, plays guitarr and piano, and i often catch her lookin me, but i wasn't sure how to approach the number exchange, today i saw the chance and i toke it.
    i start to talk whit the owner of the pub ( as far i can tell is no danger, his body languaje didn't start any red light on me) and as this HB pass i tell him that i will start againc those guitar classes in a rock academy here in my city. later she aproach and pop up the issue, a bit of c&f, she tell me , can u find out teh email for me?.
    and i say : let's do something better. let's exchange numbers, so we can call eachothers and fill u in . i say that casually and serious, a min after she come back, lain in to me, put her hand on my shoulder put her face a few inches from mine and tell me....... what's your name? we know u as the guy from the bank, i look her right in the eyes, smile, tell her u don't know my name? shame on you!! , my name is juan pablo, like the last holy father, ( pope), but i'm not holy, and not a father, ( i assure you guy's, is more funny in spanish, lol)and she laught. i finish my lunch, pay i say good weekend and get back to my job.

    tonight i have a birthday party, so let's see what happens. i will keep u informed.

    good weekends guys, and use condoms, lol


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